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N.Y. Plans to Make Gender Personal Choice
New York Times ^ | 11/07/06 | DAMIEN CAVE

Posted on 11/06/2006 9:24:11 PM PST by conservative in nyc

Separating anatomy from what it means to be a man or a woman, New York City is moving forward with a plan to let people alter the sex on their birth certificate even if they have not had sex-change surgery.

Under the rule being considered by the city’s Board of Health, which is likely to be adopted soon, people born in the city would be able to change the documented sex on their birth certificates by providing affidavits from a doctor and a mental health professional laying out why their patients should be considered members of the opposite sex, and asserting that their proposed change would be permanent.

Applicants would have to have changed their name and shown that they had lived in their adopted gender for at least two years, but there would be no explicit medical requirements.

“Surgery versus nonsurgery can be arbitrary,” said Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, the city’s health commissioner.

Dr. Frieden continued: “Somebody with a beard may have had breast-implant surgery. It’s the permanence of the transition that matters most.”

If approved, the new rule would put New York at the forefront of efforts to redefine gender. A handful of states do not require surgery for such birth certificate changes, but in some of those cases patients are still not allowed to make the change without showing a physiological shift to the opposite gender.--Snip--

--Snip--The change would lead to many intriguing questions: For example, would a man who becomes a woman be able to marry another man? (Probably.) Would an adoption agency be able to uncover the original sex of a proposed parent? (Not without a court order.) Would a woman who becomes a man be able to fight in combat, or play in the National Football League? (These areas have yet to be explored.)

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: deviancy; deviants; fraud; gayagenda; gender; homosexualagenda; lgbt; mentalillness; moralabsolutes; mutilation; nyc; perversion; perverts; sex; sexchange; slimes; sodom; sodomites; transgender
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To: drpix
What next? Death Certificates to the undead? "I am a dead man trapped in the body of a living person!"

LOL!!

61 posted on 11/07/2006 4:31:49 AM PST by syriacus (Make calls to help Santorum -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1732142/posts)
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To: mhx
I guess there really aren't any important problems to deal with in New York.

They'll only have the problem of how to get tax revenues, after the sane folks move out of the state.

62 posted on 11/07/2006 4:34:49 AM PST by syriacus (Make calls to help Santorum -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1732142/posts)
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To: backtothestreets
saw this coming over a year ago

The liberals do have a certain, sick, logic, in the way they go about getting things to go their way.

63 posted on 11/07/2006 4:36:26 AM PST by syriacus (Make calls to help Santorum -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1732142/posts)
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To: drpix
I remember a quote from somewhere: "Neurotics build castles in the sand and psychotics live in them." Today's American liberalism has progressed from neurotic to psychotic.

And psychiatrists collect the rent, or so said my psych prof. in college. It's partially the professions fault though, especially when you consider the removal of homosexuality from the diagnosis manuals and the promotion of "gender dysphoria" as a legitimate illness rather than the perversion that it is. The psychiatric field has really done a lot to promote this, to their shame.

CC

64 posted on 11/07/2006 4:55:49 AM PST by Celtic Conservative ("Minutum Cantorum, Minutum Baloram, Minutum Carboratum Descendam Pantorum")
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To: conservative in nyc
At the final public hearing for the birth certificate proposal last week, a string of advocates and transsexuals suggested that common definitions of gender, especially its reliance on medical assessments, should be abandoned. They generally praised the city for revisiting its 25-year-old policy that lets people remove the sex designation from their birth certificate if they have had sexual reassignment surgery. Then they demanded more freedom to choose.

This is proof that if you give an inch, they will take a mile.

65 posted on 11/07/2006 5:19:45 AM PST by BrynS728
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To: conservative in nyc

So, according to liberals, gender is not genetic, but sexual orientation is.


66 posted on 11/07/2006 6:26:04 AM PST by Grig
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To: conservative in nyc

Not a big deal.

If they have already lived at least two years as the opposite gender. Changing what is written on there birth certificate won't do much. Except make it easier for those who can blend to do so.


67 posted on 11/07/2006 7:10:46 AM PST by The_Repugnant_Conservative
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To: conservative in nyc
I don't want to be white anymore, I want to be hispanic. Can I get that changed? After all, basing race on physical characteristics is discriminatory and old-fashioned.
68 posted on 11/07/2006 7:33:59 AM PST by LongElegantLegs (...a urethral syringe used to treat syphilis with mercury.)
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To: mhx
Tree species. That's Al Gore, right?

As a tree-American, I resent the insinuation that Al Gore is of our species.

Respectfully,

"The Larch"

69 posted on 11/07/2006 7:37:42 AM PST by ssaftler (John Kerry - The best "bought and paid for education from Yale" money can buy)
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To: conservative in nyc

Oh Yuck, these people are so sick


70 posted on 11/07/2006 7:39:54 AM PST by dforest (be careful you don't become what you hate the most)
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To: DrGunsforHands

Actually, there are several people with XXY, XYY, XXX or XXYY chromosomes. There are also several conditions where sex can develop differently from what one could expect from XY children.


71 posted on 11/07/2006 7:52:59 AM PST by crazedsocialist
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To: Army Air Corps

That brings up a question: what is post-grad history? Is it more like a bigger bucket or a finer sieve?


72 posted on 11/07/2006 8:05:46 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: conservative in nyc

If you need any further proof that the inmates have taken over the asylum . . . .


73 posted on 11/07/2006 8:06:58 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: conservative in nyc

Do we have to keep New York as a state? Can't we force them out to join Canada?


74 posted on 11/07/2006 8:07:45 AM PST by RockinRight (Maintaining a Republican majority is MORE IMPORTANT than your temper tantrum.)
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To: conservative in nyc

75 posted on 11/07/2006 8:11:55 AM PST by Darnright (http://media.putfile.com/Webb-on-Allen)
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To: Dan Evans

Exactly, this is a 'Backdoor' to homosexual marriage.


76 posted on 11/07/2006 8:17:58 AM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: conservative in nyc

My user name says it all!


77 posted on 11/07/2006 8:20:22 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Radical Feminism: A branch of marxism actively trying to destroy the nuclear family.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Great. I also want to pick my own race, and then I'll finally be able to beat the affirmative action game.


78 posted on 11/07/2006 8:21:33 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Were not slouching towards Gomorrah anymore. We are in the freaking express lane.


79 posted on 11/07/2006 8:23:08 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: conservative in nyc

Could college football programs do this so that they don't violate title IX quota codes?


Since the goal is to make gender "transitional" then for purposes of title IX the genders of participants could be adjusted.


80 posted on 11/07/2006 8:23:50 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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