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Stuck in mud, USS Intrepid move is scrapped
MSNBC ^

Posted on 11/06/2006 8:57:44 AM PST by SmoothTalker

"NEW YORK - The legendary aircraft carrier USS Intrepid got stuck in the deep Hudson River mud Monday as powerful tugboats fought to pull it free to tow the floating museum downriver for a $60 million overhaul."

" After 24 years at the same pier on Manhattan’s West Side, the Intrepid began inching backward out of its berth, but the tugs moved it only a few feet before its giant propellers jammed in the thick accumulation of mud. The decommissioned war ship no longer has engines of its own."

"The Intrepid, launched in 1943, is one of four Essex-class carriers still afloat six decades after spearheading the naval defeat of Japan in the Pacific. It survived five kamikaze suicide attacks and lost 270 crewmen in battle.

Doomed to the scrap heap, it was purchased in 1981 by real estate developer Zachary Fisher, who realized his dream of turning the ship into the Intrepid Sea, Air & Space Museum a year later.

It became one of New York’s major tourist attractions, drawing some 700,000 visitors a year. It also supports a Fallen Heroes Fund that has provided $14 million to aid families of service members killed and wounded in the line of duty and built a $35 million advanced training facility for disabled veterans."

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To: jpsb

Court Martialed. Command lost. Desk jockey. Career over.

And rightly so, in my opinion.


81 posted on 11/06/2006 10:28:58 AM PST by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: The Electrician

Thanks...I was doing my thing from memory...


82 posted on 11/06/2006 10:30:36 AM PST by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: rlmorel

That grounding came up from time to time during piloting briefs when I was stationed in NorVa. The only difference between your story and the one that was briefed to us was that the ship was ordered to run the degaussing range. When the buoy that marks the left edge of the range was spotted by the OOD, both the Nav and Ops-O advised the skipper to take the buoy to port, instead of starboard like he should have.

It was actually the XO and the Quartermaster that tried in vain to keep the ship from running aground. There wouldn't have been a Coxswain on the bridge - they drive the ship's motor whale boats and the Captain's barge.


83 posted on 11/06/2006 10:35:38 AM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
They tried, but they're held on by right wing nuts.

Those right wing nuts can be stubborn!

84 posted on 11/06/2006 10:37:30 AM PST by gridlock (The GOP will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: jpsb
Another trick is listing the boat...

I remember when the Enterprise got stuck in the mud coming into Alameda. There was a great picture in the SF Chronicle the next day of almost the entire crew standing on the port side of the flight deck, to list the ship and get it off the bottom.

It was a really cool picture, but I have never seen it again.

85 posted on 11/06/2006 10:48:52 AM PST by gridlock (The GOP will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: Doohickey

Yes...I was a brownshoe, and don't know much about those guys, except what I saw on the liberty launches!

The only time I ever went up to the bridge is when we had our planes fly on at the beginning of a cruise, and someone had jammed a whole bunch of paper manuals into an electronics compartment to get them on the ship. Me and a buddy had no idea, opened up the compartment and all the manuals fell out, broke open, and were sucked up into the rotor of an idling Sea King. It literally rained pages...hundreds of them, all over the flight deck...

We were frog marched up to meet the Air Boss in person, and he was pretty pissed. When we explained it to him, he was pretty good about it, we never heard anything more. But that was the only time I ever went up there...:)

I defer to you!


86 posted on 11/06/2006 10:51:26 AM PST by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: rlmorel
I read somewhere that her crew referred to her as "The Evil I" for her propensity to attract Kamikazes...
I don't know if that is true or not. I read that the crew considered her a lucky ship.
The Japanese called her "The Ghost Ship" because she was reported to be sunk so many times.
87 posted on 11/06/2006 11:02:13 AM PST by wjcsux (The Republicans are disappointing, the DemosRATs are dangerous- Dr. Sowell)
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To: rlmorel
pretty incredible story, every ship captain I've known would defer to those that know and have navigated a channel. At the very least slow down to steerage speed and ask the navigator to double check course. Guess the pressure of a new command, a capital ship at that, was too much for him.
88 posted on 11/06/2006 11:05:00 AM PST by jpsb
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To: DigitalVideoDude

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said "our freedom and our values are stuck in the mud"


89 posted on 11/06/2006 11:06:31 AM PST by listenhillary (Driveby MEDIA -should be forced to file Federal Election Commission reports NOW!)
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To: Tallguy; Charles Martel

Many times (USS Texas ex-BB-35 for example) one of the priorities in prepping the ship for permanent display is filling the bilges and bottom tanks with concrete to seal the tanks, fill voids, prevent corrosion, and prevent leaks (or oil or water going places) if somebody twists a valve or a collision/hull plate breaks.

Texas is now re-floated, uses very large sliding rings around vertical pilings to hold her in place, but allow her to float.


90 posted on 11/06/2006 11:09:04 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: rlmorel

Did the captain continue being the captain?


91 posted on 11/06/2006 11:11:01 AM PST by listenhillary (Driveby MEDIA -should be forced to file Federal Election Commission reports NOW!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Uh, Democrats are in charge of the move. They don't think logical ;-)


92 posted on 11/06/2006 11:11:13 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: rlmorel
I read somewhere that her crew referred to her as "The Evil I" for her propensity to attract Kamikazes...

I think nearly all Navy ships had nicknames, and some maybe not too complimentary. My cousin's APD USS Kilty, an ex-WW1 4 stacker, was the "Filthy K". USS Bonhomme Richard was "Bonnie Dick". I think USS Franklin was "Big Ben". I wish someone would start a thread about ship's nicknames.

93 posted on 11/06/2006 11:13:17 AM PST by 19th LA Inf
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

They should leave the Intrepid where it is....just tow Manhattan about 1000 miles dues east into the middle of the Atlantic..


94 posted on 11/06/2006 11:14:57 AM PST by ken5050
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To: justshutupandtakeit
How about removing the propellers?

Just tell Hillary to get off!

95 posted on 11/06/2006 11:16:48 AM PST by Tatze (This tagline is brought to you by the Admin Moderator!)
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To: 19th LA Inf
I wish someone would start a thread about ship's nicknames.

I was visiting the Cowpens in Charleston, SC, and they had the nickname listed as "The Mighty Moo".

96 posted on 11/06/2006 11:30:09 AM PST by gridlock (The GOP will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: Yo-Yo

Can you imagine the amount of Barnacles on this puppy!


97 posted on 11/06/2006 11:33:19 AM PST by LittleMoe
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To: 19th LA Inf

Hehe, when I was on the USS JFK, the crew referred to her as "The Big John"...and It wasn/t the complimentary kind, either...:)


98 posted on 11/06/2006 12:09:24 PM PST by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: 19th LA Inf

I'll start one tonight at home...:)

Should be interesting!


99 posted on 11/06/2006 12:10:15 PM PST by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: rlmorel

Great! I'll try to think of a few more.


100 posted on 11/06/2006 12:12:13 PM PST by 19th LA Inf
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