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The Skinny On Those Political “Military Magazines” Calling For Rumsfeld's Resignation
Stop The ACLU ^ | 4-Nov-06 | Oak Leaf

Posted on 11/04/2006 1:22:35 PM PST by Jay777

UPI Headline, and many other publications.."Military mags to call for Rumsfeld.

SAN FRANCISCO, Nov. 3 (UPI) -- Four publications of the Military Times Media Group plan to call on U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to resign, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

The Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times and Marine Corps Times will issue the call in an editorial scheduled to run Monday, the newspaper said.

The Chronicle published the text of the editorial on its Web site Friday.

The editorial says the truth about the war in Iraq "been difficult to come by from leaders in Washington." Instead, the editorial says President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld have issued "one rosy reassurance after another."

The editorial notes that Bush recently said Rumsfeld would keep his job for the remainder of Bush's term in office.

"This is a mistake," the editorial says. "Rumsfeld has lost credibility with the uniformed leadership, with the troops, with Congress and with the public at large."

First, the article implies that four different "military magazines" are calling for Rumsfeld to resign. That is FALSE. These are the same publication except they are "wrapped up" Army Times, Air Force Times, Marine Corps Times, Navy Times.

These are not "professional military publications." Examples of military professional publications are "Proceedings of the Naval Institute" and "The Officer" by the Reserve Officers Association.

The Army Times used to have wide circulations. They are now part of the Gannett Group (USAToday) and the writers for these four "military papers" also work at USAToday!

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armytimes; enemedia; gannett; rumsfeld; usatoday
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To: bannie
The "Stars and Lies" was about the only "western" newspaper available to me in the 60's.
I was of the "nukem til they glow" school of diplomacy even back then so I read it with a barf bag handy.
41 posted on 11/04/2006 3:26:17 PM PST by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: JennysCool

I have a subscription to Navy Times. They have been getting more liberal as time goes on and apparently they just pecked their way out of the egg. They always have a political cartoon that is anti-war or anti-government.

This makes it easy for me to cancel, not just not renew my subscription. Screw them. I didn't want political advice from these clowns. I don't know that any of them actually served so STFU.


42 posted on 11/04/2006 3:34:47 PM PST by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: ASA Vet

"Stars and Lies"

yike!

I read it, but I was young and hopeful.

Thank God today's soldiers can get online and don't have to hold their noses to get any "news"!


43 posted on 11/04/2006 4:38:54 PM PST by bannie
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To: BonnieJ
But...what real affect will this have on voters?

What effect will this have on the morale of any troops and their families who may read this disgusting liberal propaganda and believe that it is a position santioned by the military?. I think the Pentagon should release a memorandum to all company commanders ASAP which instructs them to inform their troops that the United States military disavows any connection whatsoever with these sneaky rags.

44 posted on 11/04/2006 4:44:29 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: mathluv

I thought Greg Kelly was a conservative?

Ed


45 posted on 11/04/2006 4:55:57 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: Sir_Ed

No, once in awhile, he will slip with something liberal. I don't mind, because most of the time you can't tell if he is lib or conservative, which is fine with me. Don't forget, his father is a lib in NY, but is connected to Rudy.


46 posted on 11/04/2006 6:40:11 PM PST by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: Jay777; All

Contact the advertisers. Let them know how you feel about the leftist stance on their editorials and articles.


47 posted on 11/04/2006 6:45:09 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: BonnieJ
Fox was really screwed up this afternoon. The reporterette read the story about the preacher and his gay sex and drugs. She said he was the leader of an organization of 300 million members. That's everyone in the United States to those paying attention. Later, an ABC newsreader quoted 30 million members for the same story. Lots of hyperbole today.
48 posted on 11/04/2006 6:49:10 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: BonnieJ
So..this is their last-minute "surprise"?

One of many my FRiend, one of many.

49 posted on 11/04/2006 8:06:25 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Jay777
"This is a mistake," the editorial says. "Rumsfeld has lost credibility with the uniformed leadership, with the troops, with Congress and with the public at large."

Even if that were true, it wouldn't matter much. We have civilian control of the military, something the leftists normally scream from the rooftops. Rusmfeld is the appointee of the President, also a civilian, who was elected by the people, through the electoral college, to be the Commander in Chief. The military, General to buck private, can either salute and say "yes sir", or they can resign. (Well when their enlistment or obligated service is up).

That said, I'm not necessarily enamored of Rummie either. But that's only because he has too often filled the role of designated hatchet man when weapons, and manpower, were cut. I wasn't happy with the cancellation of the Comanche helicopter, nor of the Crusader SP artillery. I wasn't happy when 1/3 of the B-1s where sent to the bone yard either, nor with the recent announcement that the F-117s are scheduled for retirement, well before their real replacement, the JSF/F-35, comes on line. (The announcements talk about the F-22, but it can't carry as bombs as large as those the F-117 can carry, and is really a fighter, not an attack aircraft). Given the realities of the FY07 budget, I expect that FCS (Future Combat System, which is the future of the Army) will take some hits as well. Meanwhile the equipment we have is wearing out, especially Army and Marine ground vehicles.

All this to feed the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. That war needs fighting, but not all our enemies consist of illiterate ragheads with IEDs, RPGs, and small arms. The Iranians have more, as do the North Koreans. .... Then there are the Red Chinese and resurgent Russians.

50 posted on 11/04/2006 8:21:21 PM PST by El Gato
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To: mathluv

I never spotted that, but I never looked that ctitically at his reports, he being a Marine reservist Harrier pilot, which I assumed meant he had to be conservative..

His Dad is very anti-2nd Amendment, but I don't think anyone can advance in the NYPD if they believe in the Constitution...

Ed


51 posted on 11/05/2006 12:07:27 AM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: Sir_Ed

I think that holds true if you are in NYC, period. Greg does a good job the vast majority of the time - because he does not let his liberalism show very often.


52 posted on 11/05/2006 4:12:27 AM PST by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: Lancey Howard

They have a web-site and a letter-to-the editor feedback section on it. I started mine with "Cancel my subscription" and then explained why. Their customer support site has a phone number for 'editorial related issues.'


53 posted on 11/06/2006 6:34:33 AM PST by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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