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CA: On the governor's coattails? Big lead may-- or may not-- help others in GOP.
Fresno Bee ^ | E.J. Schultz

Posted on 11/04/2006 12:28:02 PM PST by calcowgirl

SACRAMENTO — If the polls are correct, Gov. Schwarzenegger is on his way to a big win Tuesday. But is he popular enough to pull other Republicans across the finish line?

In what is being billed nationally as the year of the Democrat, California might buck the trend.

At least that's the hope of Republican strategists, who for weeks have talked about a so-called coattail effect: the theory that a big win for the popular Republican governor could mean good things for the GOP in other statewide races.

Republican analyst Dan Schnur has even compiled a "coattail index." It says that a 15-point win for Schwarzenegger — he leads Phil Angelides in the latest Field Poll by 16 points — would translate to Republican wins in the race for insurance commissioner, secretary of state, controller and lieutenant governor.

The coattail theory is based on the idea that the top of the ticket sets the tone for other statewide races.

Mark Baldassare, a public opinion expert at the Public Policy Institute of California, a nonpartisan research organization, said that idea might be wishful thinking on the part of Republicans.

"I just can't find any compelling evidence that the governor's margin of victory can cause Republicans to get elected," he said. "They're going to have to do it on their own."

Schwarzenegger has made his political comeback by reaching out to Democrats and independents, not by rallying Republicans, he said.

Schwarzenegger's bipartisan appeal is evident in the Field Poll, which shows 21% of Democrats and 39% of independents prefer Schwarzenegger over state Treasurer Angelides.

"We don't see any evidence that he's a major force in terms of getting out the Republican vote," Baldassare said of the governor.

(Excerpt) Read more at fresnobee.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calelection; calgov2006; coattailmyth; coattails; schwarzenegger
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1 posted on 11/04/2006 12:28:05 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
Big lead may-- or may not-- help others in GOP.

Story may -- or may not -- make sense.

2 posted on 11/04/2006 12:33:49 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
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To: calcowgirl

What kind of a headline is that? Big lead "may or may not" help. Way to cover all the bases without actually commiting to anything.


3 posted on 11/04/2006 12:35:05 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: calcowgirl
Dim writer says the odds are six-of-one-half-dozen-of-another....
4 posted on 11/04/2006 12:47:03 PM PST by GoldCountryRedneck (Think of Pelosi as Speaker, then hold your nose if you must, and vote Republican!)
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To: calcowgirl
Schnur's theory has never made any sense to me.

If a democrat or left leaning independent is disappointed in Angelides and inspired by Schwarzenegger's adoption of a liberal agenda, why would they vote for another Republican? If Arnold was out campaigning for them, one might be able to believe (e.g. "If Arnold thinks they are the right man for the job, then maybe I'll vote for them too.") But that hasn't happened. In fact, Schwarzenegger has kept his distance from each and every candidate, not appearing in public with them, or in campaign materials. On the flipside, there are advertisements showing Schwarzenegger and Dianne Feinstein touting the big-bang-bonds under a "bipartisan" label.

Garamendi and Jerry Brown have been continuously painting McClintock and Poochigian as "extremists" because they are 'to the right' of Arnold. They both point out that Arnold believes in all the things they do, so the Republicans must be out of the mainstream. The following is from Garamendi's website, capitalizing on Arnold's latest public prounouncements that McClintock as "Wrong":

Just a few of the many examples of McClintock opposing Schwarzenegger this year:
Coattails? It looks like anyone who likes Schwarzenegger's agenda would be voting for Garamendi!
5 posted on 11/04/2006 12:55:38 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: hsalaw; NonValueAdded; GoldCountryRedneck

Many in the Republican Party have been pushing the theory that the bigger Arnold wins, the better chance the downticket candidates have. The author is discussing that theory. Here are some earlier threads:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1722675/posts
Computing The Schwarzenegger Coattail Index: A Guide to the Downticket Races
Flashreport ^ | Oct. 19, 2006 | Dan Schnur
Posted on 10/19/2006 7:58:31 PM PDT by FairOpinion

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1722649/posts
Does Arnold have coattails?
Capitol Weekly ^ | October 19th, 2006 | Anthony York and John Howard
Posted on 10/19/2006 6:52:23 PM PDT by Amerigomag


6 posted on 11/04/2006 1:02:39 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: All
Coattails or not, Republicans believe Schwarzenegger's popularity can only help.

"Let's put it this way," Khachigian said, "it beats the alternative."

7 posted on 11/04/2006 1:07:01 PM PST by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: doodlelady; SierraWasp; Czar; ElkGroveDan; tubebender; Carry_Okie; LexBaird; Mojave; ...

It is difficult to determine exactly what that quote is referring to but I would contend that it doesn't necessarily "beat the alternative." Arnold is out campaigning for $43 Billion in bonds (Prop 1B, 1C, 1D, 1E, 84). Several of these measures are OPPOSED by the Republican party. Instead, he has aligned himself with Nunez, Perata and Feinstein.

On the other hand, he rejected the one big initiative that could motivate Republicans and conservatives and help the downticket candidates (Prop 90 - End Eminent Domain Abuse).

If anyone is motivated by Arnold to go to the polls, they are being asked to vote FOR big-government pork spending and AGAINST property rights!

How exactly does that "beat the alternative"?

And how does Arnold's prounouncement yesterday that "McClintock is Wrong" help anybody other than Arnold, while hurting Tom?


8 posted on 11/04/2006 1:29:21 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
It is difficult to determine exactly what that quote is referring to

Not for Ken Khachigian, a strategist for Poochigian's campaign.

9 posted on 11/04/2006 1:38:30 PM PST by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: calcowgirl
This year's gubernatorial race will have little affect on the downticket races. The issues and the Democrat candidate, not the Republican candidate, are bringing Republicans out to vote.

Schwarzenegger personally, campaigned against the Republican, Lt.Governor candidate yesterday and continues to daily press for liberal policies. Few Republicans are going to the polls to vote for the Austrian. Most are going to vote against the Democrat and Schwarzenegger's bonding policies.

10 posted on 11/04/2006 1:40:19 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag
Few Republicans are going to the polls to vote for the Austrian. Most are going to vote against the Democrat and Schwarzenegger's bonding policies.

Most are going to vote against the Democrat and Schwarzenegger's bonding policies.... AND McClintock, Strickland and Prop 90!

I just got a recorded phone message supporting Prop 90. It did note that the California Republican Party is FOR Proposition 90 (even though Arnold is against it).

11 posted on 11/04/2006 1:57:26 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
Yikes! Let me correct that:
Most are going to vote against the Democrat and Schwarzenegger's bonding policies.... AND FOR McClintock, Strickland and Prop 90!

12 posted on 11/04/2006 1:59:44 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Amerigomag
Agreed. Conservatives will vote for neither liberal and concentrate on downticket races and ballot propositions.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

13 posted on 11/04/2006 2:00:41 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: doodlelady
"Let's put it this way," Khachigian said, "it beats the alternative."

Khachigian's reply was in response to events that became public Friday. The response went like this:

Ken Khachigian, a strategist for Poochigian's campaign, said he was satisfied with the governor's involvement, even though there are no firm plans for him to appear with Poochigian during the home stretch. "Let's put it this way," Khachigian said, "it beats the alternative."

In this case the alternative being that the Austrian might campaign against Poochigian as he did against McClintock in an interview Thursday with the Oakland Tribune's political correspondent.

14 posted on 11/04/2006 2:05:27 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag

Amerigomag, there is absolutely not ONE IOTA of indication in this article that Khachigian is referring to anything but an Angelides alternative.





I invite readers to actually peruse the posted article.
You have combined quotes out of context.







15 posted on 11/04/2006 2:13:57 PM PST by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: calcowgirl


16 posted on 11/04/2006 2:16:56 PM PST by newzjunkey (Arnold-McClintock / YES 1A, 1E, 83, 85, 90 / San Diego: NO A / YES B & C)
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To: calcowgirl

Arnie doesn't have coattails, his high vote will be from socialists, enviros, and star struck idiots.

The farther the rest of the Republican candidates can stay away from that puke the better they will do.


17 posted on 11/04/2006 2:19:56 PM PST by dalereed
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To: newzjunkey

Is there some message you are trying to communicate with those pictures?
If so, words would be much more effective.


18 posted on 11/04/2006 2:24:30 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
In what is being billed nationally as the year of the Democrat

Err ... Since when?

19 posted on 11/04/2006 2:24:35 PM PST by JennysCool
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To: JennysCool
The media thinks the country is in love with the Democrats. Hardly.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

20 posted on 11/04/2006 2:26:09 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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