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The Harsh Light of Science
From the FEB/MAR 2006 issue of Seed ^ | March 20, 2006 12:09 AM | Daniel C. Dennett

Posted on 11/03/2006 3:34:45 PM PST by gallaxyglue

Science & ReligionEmail Print The Harsh Light of ScienceDaniel Dennett on why a scientific study of religion is necessary.

by Daniel C. Dennett • Posted March 20, 2006 12:09 AM

From the FEB/MAR 2006 issue of Seed:

Jesus, made from the elements.

Religion is such an important phenomenon that it is high time we directed all the magnificent truth-seeking tools of science on religions, to see what makes them work in the ways they do. I am not suggesting that science should try to do what religion does, but that it should study, scientifically, what religion does. Is there a good reason to oppose this? Those who are dubious about, or fearful of, the authority of science will have to search their souls. Do they acknowledge the power of science, properly conducted, to settle controversial factual questions or do they reserve judgment, waiting to see what the verdict will be? The ethos of science is that you pay a price for the authoritative confirmation of your favorite hypothesis, risking an authoritative refutation of it. Those who want to make claims about religion will have to live by the same rules: prove it or drop it. And if you set out to prove it and fail, you are obliged to tell us.

The potential benefits to religion of joining the scientific community are enormous: getting the authority of science in support of what you say you believe with all your heart and soul. Not for nothing have the new religions of the last century or two been given names like Christian Science and Scientology. Even the Roman Catholic Church, with its unfortunate legacy of persecution of its own scientists, has recently been eager to seek scientific confirmation--and accept the risk of disconfirmation--of its traditional claims about the Shroud of Turin, for example.

Advertisement In spite of this progress, the church's attitude toward science is still in disarray. In 1996, Pope John Paul II declared that "new knowledge leads us to recognize in the theory of evolution more than a hypothesis," and while many biologists were cheered by this acknowledgment of the fundamental scientific theory that unifies all of biology, they noted with dismay that he went on to insist that the transition from ape to human being involved a "transition to the spiritual" that could not be accounted for by biology. According to the pope, the theories of evolutionary biology provided an acceptable account of the rest of the biosphere but were "incompatible with the truth about man. Nor are they able to ground the dignity of the person." Last summer, Christoph Schönborn, the Roman Catholic cardinal archbishop of Vienna, published an op-ed essay in the New York Times emphasizing that the official position of the Roman Catholic Church is actually opposed to neo-Darwinian theory of evolution by natural selection.

According to Archbishop Schönborn, Catholics may use "the light of reason" to arrive at the conclusion that "evolution in the neo-Darwinian sense--an unguided, unplanned process of random variation and natural selection" is not possible, a conclusion firmly refuted by thousands of observations, experiments and calculations by experts in biology when they use their own light of reason. So, in spite of some important concessions over the years--and an official apology to Galileo centuries after the fact--the Roman Catholic Church is still in the awkward and indefensible position of trying to lean on scientific authority when Catholics like what it concludes while flatly rejecting it when it contradicts their traditions.

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The Harsh Light of Science, written by Daniel C. Dennett, posted on March 20, 2006 12:09 AM, is in the category Science & Religion.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: religion; religiousbelief; science; scientificproof

1 posted on 11/03/2006 3:34:46 PM PST by gallaxyglue
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To: gallaxyglue

How does one scientifically prove faith? You either have it or don't.


2 posted on 11/03/2006 4:04:08 PM PST by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: Owl558
Yes. Also, science and religion ask entirely different questions. Science explains HOW things come to be. Religion explains WHY things are. Science cannot explain why we exist or why the universe came to be. Such questions are metaphysical. They can be investigated by logic, but can never be proven by the testing of hypotheses.
3 posted on 11/03/2006 4:17:38 PM PST by gallaxyglue (Have we lost our civilization as we know it?)
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To: gallaxyglue

Why use science to justify faith?


4 posted on 11/03/2006 4:17:38 PM PST by Redgirl
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To: gallaxyglue
Religion is such an important phenomenon that it is high time we directed all the magnificent truth-seeking tools of science on religions, to see what makes them work in the ways they do.

CHOKE ... SPLUT ... "Truth seeking tools"? Pardon me for laughing in your face. Since when does science seek truth? Read any article and count how many times the word "consensus" appears. Science today is indistinguishable from politics, which is pretty much true throughout history.

Here's a quote from some time in the 17th century or thereabouts:
"There are two theories of disease, the humour theory and the germ theory. We now believe the germ theory is correct, mostly because all the supporters of the humour theory have died."
(Author unknown)
5 posted on 11/03/2006 4:46:59 PM PST by SmartAZ
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To: gallaxyglue
Is there a good reason to oppose this?

Not opposing, just pointing out that the methods of science are generally not appropriate for studying religion. What would it be called? Religiology?

6 posted on 11/03/2006 4:49:37 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA)
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To: SmartAZ
Science seeks to explain the physical world. It does so by hypothesizing, and by proving that the hypothesis through experimentation, measurement, etc. Science never claims the ultimate truth--only the "present" explanation of what is known.
7 posted on 11/03/2006 4:56:18 PM PST by gallaxyglue (Have we lost our civilization as we know it?)
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To: RightWhale
I wonder if that is because religion should not be concerned with the physical world. Religion should concern itself with our ethereal, spiritual, non-physical part, so hard to reach. Intelligent Design is one place where religion and science have collided because some have tried to explain our Biblical origin scientifically (mathematically). In my opinion, the mathematical explanations to disavow evolution have not worked.
8 posted on 11/03/2006 5:05:32 PM PST by gallaxyglue (Have we lost our civilization as we know it?)
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To: gallaxyglue
Yep. Science is sure irrefutable.LOL

After all, cosmologists of the last century gave us the concept of the static universe popular for decades before the big bang came along.

And who can forget that the laws of thermodynamics used to say that matter and/or energy could not be created nor destroyed. Now the laws add the qualifier "except in nuclear reactions".

9 posted on 11/03/2006 7:37:16 PM PST by Mogollon
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To: gallaxyglue
Intelligent Design is one place where religion and science have collided

It might be amusing to note that one of the members of Port Royal, along with Pascal, was a watchmaker. They were intensely religious and also just beginning to lay out the modern scientific method. The mechanistic universe was being developed. Whitehead, who also begins his development with God, has laid out an organic cosmology that has yet to be widely understood but may replace the mechanistic and the animistic cosmologies that are still current. The designer cosmology is mainly mechanistic.

10 posted on 11/04/2006 8:45:34 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA)
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To: gallaxyglue
Reading Dennett on religion is like hearing a man deaf his entire life lecture on Mozart.

Christianity is not therapy. A "pocket jesus for healthy living" is an idol.

11 posted on 11/04/2006 10:40:16 AM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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