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JVERITAS Responds to the 11/3 NYT Article Regarding Iraq Nuclear Program.
November 3rd 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 11/02/2006 8:48:45 PM PST by jveritas

Edited on 11/02/2006 11:06:31 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The New York Times article to be published on November 3rd 2006 is about the US putting some captured Iraqi documents on the Foreign Military Intelligence Office (FMSO) website that talks about what the NYT and the IAEA call sensitive information from Iraq 1996 "Full, Final, and Complete Declaration FFCD presented to the UN and IAEA in 1996 and that talks about Iraq nuclear clandestine program. The IAEA and the New York Times claim that Iran may be using some of the technology in this FFCD which is a laughable idea as shown below.

That is from the IAEA website regardinf their report on Iraq FFCD presented to them by the Iraqis in 1996: “ 3. On 7 September 1996 in Baghdad Iraq delivered what it considered to be the definitive version of the "Full, Final, and Complete Declaration" (FFCD-F) of the Iraqi clandestine nuclear programme. The IAEA with the assistance of technical experts from Member States undertook a comprehensive review of the document.” Link: http://www.iaea.org/About/Policy/GC/GC41/Documents/gc41-20.html

So the FFCD was discussed with member states experts of the IAEA. There are 142 members in the IAEA including Iran. I am not saying that the IAEA discussed the Iraqi FFCD with Iranians but the FFCD was not such a secret document and the Iranians would have been able to access it in one way or another if it really provide them with any useful information.

What is important in this whole issue is that the New York Times has ridiculed these documents all along and never payed attention to them including the very important documents that show Saddam regime never stopped its programs related to WMD including nuclear programs. These documents were translated and posted here on FR.

On the subject of nuclear program, I translated and posted a document last month dated January 2001 that shows with a shadow of doubt that Saddam was personally involved with his nuclear scientist to re-build the nuclear program. In this document it states that Saddam personally approved his Iraqi Atomic Energy Agency to re-use nuclear equipments that include something called “Degussa Furnaces” that were used in the previous and prohibited Iraq nuclear program. These furnaces can be used to melt uranium and other nuclear related activities. The Degussa Vacuum furnaces were supplied to Iraq in the 1980’s by a German firm (Degussa AG based in Frankfurt Germany) and these furnaces later on became the subject of investigations of the German firm in the early 1990’s where the company claimed that they did not know that Iraq would have used them in its nuclear program.

The New York Times had an article in 1998 titled “An Iraqi Defector Warns of Iraq's Nuclear Weapons Research” where the Degussa furnaces were mentioned as part of “previous” Iraq nuclear program and the controversy surrounding the sale of these furnaces and the investigations later on(link: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sanders/214/other/news/iraqi_defector.html ). The irony is that this is not only a New York Times article but also it was written by JUDITH MILLER and JAMES RISEN once of the worst accusers (liars) that the Bush administration lied about Iraq WMD. Where are you Scott Shane????

Link to the translated document on FR: 2001 Iraqi Document: Saddam Approved the Re-Use of Nuclear Equipment http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1725141/posts

Moreover, there are documents dated 1999-2001 that talk about Saddam regime projects to re-build some of the nuclear program facilities like RWTS (Radioactive Waste Treatment Station) and Radio-Chemistry laboratories which were part of Iraq previous clandestine nuclear program. Link to the translated document on FR: Iraqi Documents: Projects to Rebuild Saddam Nuclear Facilities http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1718125/posts .

Also this one

Iraqi Documents Show Plans for Prohibited Nuclear Projects http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1709390/posts


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To: SueRae
I am incredulous at the obvious posturing of the NYT.

Oh, I'm not. This is desparate measures for desparate times. And they come through for the Dems and don't give a damn how partisan they are. All pretense is thrown out the window cos they know they are dying. I hope they take the dems down with them.

341 posted on 11/03/2006 5:23:17 AM PST by arbee4bush (Our Airman Daughter KB4W--Hero, Patriot and the Love of her mom & dads life!)
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To: jveritas

mark for later


342 posted on 11/03/2006 5:29:21 AM PST by brothers4thID (Being lectured by Ted Kennedy on ethics is not unlike being lectured on dating protocol by Ted Bundy)
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To: jveritas
Excellent work! Go get'em...


343 posted on 11/03/2006 5:31:40 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: jveritas; All

We all need to hound FOX NEWS.... NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


344 posted on 11/03/2006 5:32:31 AM PST by avacado
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To: jveritas; Chena; Valin; M. Thatcher; DocRock; Calpernia; Madame Dufarge; Txsleuth; Peach; ...
Sorry for the late ping guys, I was offline all evening, and look what I miss! I'm surprised Fox and Friends didn't mention this though!

JVERITAS Responds to the 11/3 NYT Article Regarding Iraq Nuclear Program.

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Please add the keyword prewardocs to any articles pertaining to this subject.

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345 posted on 11/03/2006 5:32:50 AM PST by eyespysomething (Thou whoreson impudent embossed rascal!)
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To: Petronski

That's an awesome pic. LOVE IT! ;-)


346 posted on 11/03/2006 5:36:15 AM PST by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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To: jveritas

Way to kick @ss, jveritas!!!

Kudos to you!


347 posted on 11/03/2006 5:38:55 AM PST by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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To: eyespysomething

bump


348 posted on 11/03/2006 5:38:55 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: PghBaldy

Excerpt From "Engineering and Design of Nuclear Weapons"

Lack of knowledge has never been an obstacle to any nation in developing nuclear weapons. The problem is in obtaining the necessary tools and materials...

Interestingly enough, the United States government conducted a controlled experiment called the Nth Country Experiment to see how much effort was actually required to develop a viable fission weapon design starting from nothing. In this experiment, which ended on 10 April 1967, three newly graduated physics students were given the task of developing a detailed weapon design using only public domain information. The project reached a successful conclusion, that is, they did develop a viable design (detailed in the classified report UCRL-50248) after expending only three man-years of effort over two and a half calendar years. In the years since, much more information has entered the public domain so that the level of effort required has obviously dropped further.

This experiment established an upper limit on the required level of effort that is so low that the hope that lack of information may provide even a small degree of protection from proliferation is clearly a futile one...

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Nwfaq/Nfaq4.html


349 posted on 11/03/2006 5:42:08 AM PST by Josh Painter (If you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you become a liberal.)
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To: jveritas; All
Here is what I posted to a W&P section of an automotive forum that I frequent



New York Times Validates Bush's Reason for War!!

I don't think they meant to do this, but they did.

Here is their article:
Last March, the federal government set up a Web site to make public a vast archive of Iraqi documents captured during the war. The Bush administration did so under pressure from Congressional Republicans who had said they hoped to “leverage the Internet” to find new evidence of the prewar dangers posed by Saddam Hussein.

But in recent weeks, the site has posted some documents that weapons experts say are a danger themselves: detailed accounts of Iraq’s secret nuclear research before the 1991 Persian Gulf war. The documents, the experts say, constitute a basic guide to building an atom bomb.

Last night, the government shut down the Web site after The New York Times asked about complaints from weapons experts and arms-control officials. A spokesman for John Negroponte, the director of national intelligence, said access to the site had been suspended “pending a review to ensure its content is appropriate for public viewing.”
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The campaign for the online archive was mounted by conservative publications and politicians, who said that the nation’s spy agencies had failed adequately to analyze the 48,000 boxes of documents seized since the March 2003 invasion. With the public increasingly skeptical about the rationale and conduct of the war, the chairmen of the House and Senate intelligence committees argued that wide analysis and translation of the documents — most of them in Arabic — would reinvigorate the search for clues that Mr. Hussein had resumed his unconventional arms programs in the years before the invasion. American search teams never found such evidence.


Now, I'm sure your asking how this shows a more current threat.

But, if these documents are valid, then the rest of the 48,000 boxes of documents are valid as well.

jveritas on freerepublic.com has read only 40,000 pages of them and has found quite a lot of disturbing stuff. I've posted some of the translations here, only to be told that they didn't mean anything. Like Saddam offering to pay suicide bombers to take out American interests.

And, 2001 documents talking about Saddam restarting his Nuke program.

Jveritas has responded to the NYT article

Here is a link to his response:
[url]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1731259/posts?page=1,50[/url]

And here is a quick quote from his response:
On the subject of nuclear program, I translated and posted a document last month dated January 2001 that shows without a shadow of doubt that Saddam was personally involved with his nuclear scientist to re-build the nuclear program. [B]In this document it states that Saddam personally approved his Iraqi Atomic Energy Agency to re-use nuclear equipments that include something called “Degussa Furnaces”[/B] that were used in the previous and prohibited Iraq nuclear program. These furnaces can be used to melt uranium and other nuclear related activities. The Degussa Vacuum furnaces were supplied to Iraq in the 1980’s by a German firm (Degussa AG based in Frankfurt Germany) and these furnaces later on became the subject of investigations of the German firm in the early 1990’s where the company claimed that they did not know that Iraq would have used them in its nuclear program.

The New York Times had an article in 1998 titled “An Iraqi Defector Warns of Iraq's Nuclear Weapons Research” where the Degussa furnaces were mentioned as part of “previous” Iraq nuclear program and the controversy surrounding the sale of these furnaces and the investigations later on(link: [url]http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sanders/214/other/news/iraqi_defector.html[/url] ). The irony is that this is not only a New York Times article but also it was written by JUDITH MILLER and JAMES RISEN once of the worst accusers (liars) that the Bush administration lied about Iraq WMD. Where are you Scott Shane????"


I know the NYT meant for this to be a hit piece on Bush, but instead it proves all of his pre-war concerns.

Here is a link to the 2001 Document:
[url]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1725141/posts[/url]



I also emailed a lot of people on the email list.

I'll update everyone on what the liberals have to say on that forum.
350 posted on 11/03/2006 5:45:42 AM PST by Gvl_M3
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To: Gvl_M3

Wow, that was a much bigger post than I meant.


351 posted on 11/03/2006 5:49:57 AM PST by Gvl_M3
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To: jveritas
I think I have posted to you about 20 times now and you have kindly responded to me a few times.

Before you are way too famous and forget about us little FReepers, I again just wish to thank you for your outstanding work. It is your work that clearly shows the coalition did the right thing to protect North America.

352 posted on 11/03/2006 5:54:10 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: jveritas

I'm no expert on this subject but I have been following the meltdown at the Times and their studied indifference to the captured Iraqi documents has been amazing. Now, suddenly, they find an angle that they think they can spin their way.

Of course, the Times is still in denial about the Venona Project, so what can you expect.


353 posted on 11/03/2006 5:56:22 AM PST by joylyn
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To: Repub4bush

It's on the Drudge Report. He will see it.


354 posted on 11/03/2006 5:57:16 AM PST by MarkLevinFan
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To: jveritas; All
Is there a keyword search for your translations?

I know I'm about to get clobbered over this (on another website), and I'd like to be able to point people to the different documents.

Thanks for all your hard work on these documents. Looks like it is finally going to pay off.

p.s. I know you are going to have a busy day, so reply at your convenience.
355 posted on 11/03/2006 6:05:28 AM PST by Gvl_M3
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To: jveritas

BUMP! for later


356 posted on 11/03/2006 6:07:16 AM PST by bannie
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To: Petronski

I don't, but I e-mailed the link to Laura's show.


357 posted on 11/03/2006 6:11:42 AM PST by FarRightFanatic
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To: Pride in the USA

ping for later


358 posted on 11/03/2006 6:14:05 AM PST by Pride in the USA
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To: CyberAnt
"panicked" - about what ..??

Well, there has been a lot of talk about investigations that would occur should the Democrats take over the House, but there has been very little talk about investigations that will happen if Republicans keep the House. Namely, investigations of leaking of state secrets by the NY Times. Bill Keller and others at the Times stand a real chance of being prosecuted if Republicans retain the majority.

359 posted on 11/03/2006 6:15:58 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Being a Liberal is just a coping mechanism for low self esteem and/or bad parenting.)
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To: SevenofNine

Does anyone have the pajama version of "the Spirit of '76" ??


360 posted on 11/03/2006 6:17:45 AM PST by EDINVA
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