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Shocker: New York Times Confirms Iraqi Nuclear Weapons Program
NRO ^ | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 11/02/2006 8:09:04 PM PST by hipaatwo

When I saw the headline on Drudge earlier tonight, that the New York Times had a big story coming out tomorrow that had something to do with Iraq and WMDs, I was ready for an October November Surprise.

Well, Drudge is giving us the scoop. And if it's meant to be a slam-Bush story, I think the Times team may have overthunk this:

U.S. POSTING OF IRAQ NUKE DOCS ON WEB COULD HAVE HELPED IRAN...

NYT REPORTING FRIDAY, SOURCES SAY: Federal government set up Web site —
Operation Iraqi Freedom Document Portal — to make public a vast archive of Iraqi documents captured during the war; detailed accounts of Iraq's secret nuclear research; a 'basic guide to building an atom bomb'... Officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency fear the information could help Iran develop nuclear arms... contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that the nuclear experts say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums...

Website now shut... Developing...

I'm sorry, did the New York Times just put on the front page that IRAQ HAD A NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM AND WAS PLOTTING TO BUILD AN ATOMIC BOMB?

What? Wait a minute. The entire mantra of the war critics has been  "no WMDs, no WMDs, no threat, no threat", for the past three years solid. Now we're being told that the Bush administration erred by making public information that could help any nation build an atomic bomb.

Let's go back and clarify: IRAQ HAD NUCLEAR WEAPONS PLANS SO ADVANCED AND DETAILED THAT ANY COUNTRY COULD HAVE USED THEM.

I think the Times editors are counting on this being spun as a "Boy, did Bush screw up" meme; the problem is, to do it, they have to knock down the "there was no threat in Iraq" meme, once and for all. Because obviously, Saddam could have sold this information to anybody, any other state, or any well-funded terrorist group that had publicly pledged to kill millions of Americans and had expressed interest in nuclear arms. You know, like, oh... al-Qaeda.

The New York Times just tore the heart out of the antiwar argument, and they are apparently completely oblivous to it.

The antiwar crowd is going to have to argue that the information somehow wasn't dangerous in the hands of Saddam Hussein, but was dangerous posted on the Internet. It doesn't work. It can't be both no threat to America and yet also somehow a threat to America once it's in the hands of Iran. Game, set, and match.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2001bushvindicated; 2001documents; bushlied; bushsfault; bushwasright; fmsodocuments; iraq; jveritas; magnificentbastard; nuclearweapons; nyt; oops; owngoal; postwardocs; prewardocs; pullgrenadethrowpin; rymb; saddamatomicbomb; saddamdocs; saddamnuke; waronterror; wmd; wot
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Shocker: New York Times Confirms Iraqi Nuclear Weapons Program

Release/Translation of Classified PreWar Docs ping. If you want to be added or removed to the ping list, please Freepmail me.

301 posted on 11/03/2006 5:33:55 AM PST by eyespysomething (Thou whoreson impudent embossed rascal!)
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National Intelligence Director John Negroponte has suspended public access to a government Web site with Iraqi documents from the Saddam Hussein era.

U.S. yanks Web site with reported nuclear secrets

302 posted on 11/03/2006 5:35:26 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: GoLightly

My 11 year old tells me that given the materials, he can make a bomb. I know he's probably full of it, but it wouldn't suprise me with all the information floating out there.


303 posted on 11/03/2006 5:41:28 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Obama in 08)
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Government Web site might have exposed dangerous nuke secrets to world

US intelligence chief cuts access to Saddam-era documents that may have nuclear secrets

Web site has its own danger

Iraqi nuke research on Web is blocked

Govt Releases Nuclear Bomb How-To Documents


304 posted on 11/03/2006 5:48:43 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TigersEye

Only in a fools mind!


305 posted on 11/03/2006 5:54:34 AM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: rfp1234

"JVeritas shows that there is a LOT more to the story than the pre-1991 stuff. There are some chilling nuke-related docs ranging from 1999 to OCTOBER 2002. The UN inspectors never saw those before their capture."

This is the part of the story the NYTimes will never admit to, unless forced to. Too much invested in the opposite meme.


306 posted on 11/03/2006 6:31:24 AM PST by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: hipaatwo

It's a Rove plot! (sarcasm)

Yup, the NYT is happy to confirm WMDs in Iraq to serve their goal of saying Bush lost control of them . . .


307 posted on 11/03/2006 6:33:38 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: TexKat

The New York Times had examined dozens of the documents and asked a half dozen nuclear experts to evaluate some of them.

Ha, they have probably read every document on that site, and you know they are just Cherry picking the ones that they think will hurt the GOP and Bush. What fools they are.


308 posted on 11/03/2006 6:37:54 AM PST by RatsDawg
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To: cvq3842

The spin is already on, folks. I was just in the company cafeteria getting breakfast and, unfortunately, they had BSNBC going on the TV. First, Norah O'Donnell was talking to Ana Marie "Wonkette" Cox and some other talking head about that preacher out in Colorado that's supposedly being blackmailed by a gay prostitute he's had an affair with, and Norah was breathlessly agreeing with Slutette that "he was only two steps removed from the President, he has conference calls with the President every week, blah blah."

Then they came back from break and they mentioned this story...sure enough, Norah added on that the website "was created at the instigation of REPUBLICAN leaders in the House and Senate; intelligence officials objected but they were OVERRULED BY THE PRESIDENT."

So there's the drive-by media spin--the President and the Republicans insisted on creating this website, and so it's THEIR fault that this website had documents posted on it that might show little Achmed how to create a nucular device. Just when I think my loathing for the DBM can't get any worse, they up it a notch.

}:-)4


309 posted on 11/03/2006 6:41:51 AM PST by Moose4 (They caught me white and nerdy.)
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To: Moose4

Norah also said quite clearly at least once that they were "OUR" nuclear secrets.


310 posted on 11/03/2006 6:43:28 AM PST by noexcuses
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To: Moose4

Its like the GOP was under pressure to prove to the Dems that the WMD's and Nuclear program did exist, and then when they set up a website that proves that, they are still in the wrong...how messed up...but thats the MSM and Dems for ya.


311 posted on 11/03/2006 6:46:41 AM PST by RatsDawg
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To: Moose4

I wonder if thats the same intelligence officials that said that there were no plans for a Nuclear Iraq, and that WMD's don't exist.


312 posted on 11/03/2006 6:50:06 AM PST by RatsDawg
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To: Moose4

It's unbelievable.

They'd rather lose the war (and a city of two, no doubt) than lose the election.

I FIRMLY believe that.

I hope the DUmmies read this too - yes, THEY ARE THE ENEMY!

I'm livid.


313 posted on 11/03/2006 7:03:39 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: hipaatwo

first of all, if Iraq had a nuclear weapons program in 2002-2003 the administration would be shouting it loud. It would not be buried in a NY Times hit piece. Soldiers would have found it. A nuclear weapons program cannot be hidden very easily

secondly, I think the author is clearly reffering to 1991 as when Iraq was close to a nuke---most experts agree on this


314 posted on 11/03/2006 7:15:35 AM PST by ChurtleDawg (Go Mike Steele!)
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To: ChurtleDawg

The administration has ignored most WMD's finds reports, their montra has been just to move forward, and not dwell on it.


315 posted on 11/03/2006 7:19:54 AM PST by RatsDawg
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To: DrGunsforHands
They won't focus on that this vindicates the War in Iraq but say that Republicans put plans to build a nuke on the internet.

Of course that will be the way it's presented. The American people are not so stupid that they won't scratch their heads and say, "Wait a minute. I thought you said Saddam wasn't dangerous and didn't have access to something as dangerous as this."

316 posted on 11/03/2006 7:21:35 AM PST by alnick
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To: RatsDawg

well, they have credibility on the line. They have been burned before by bad information


317 posted on 11/03/2006 7:24:10 AM PST by ChurtleDawg (Go Mike Steele!)
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To: janetjanet998

Do not underestimate the American people. Here's the bottom line that the NYT cannot get around. They're claiming that this info would be extremely dangerous in Iran's hands. That means they are tacitly admitting that the same info was equally dangerous in Saddam's hands, where it would still be, YEARS after we deposed Saddam had we not taken him out.


318 posted on 11/03/2006 7:26:16 AM PST by alnick
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To: TexKat

Hey, Pravda-USA (NY Slimes) has reached Pravda-Russia, so we know that the NY Slimes editors are pleasing their leftist masters:

http://english.pravda.ru/news/world/03-11-2006/85356-saddam-0


319 posted on 11/03/2006 7:33:37 AM PST by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Drive-By Media)
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To: alnick

Shocker admission paragraph stricken from article?

Has anyone read today's story from the NYTimes? That paragraph we are quoting IS NOT in the article. It's either been removed, re-written or was taken from somewhere else.

Check it out.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/world/middleeast/03cnd-documents.html?pagewanted=2&ei=5094&en=d6e60f288e881789&hp&ex=1162616400&partner=homepage


320 posted on 11/03/2006 7:38:42 AM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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