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Microsoft backtracks on Vista transfer limits
CNet News (excerpt) ^ | November 2, 2006

Posted on 11/02/2006 11:24:57 AM PST by HAL9000

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REDMOND, Wash.--Reversing a licensing change announced two weeks ago, Microsoft said on Thursday that it will not limit the number of times that retail customers can transfer their Windows Vista license to a different computer.

On Oct. 16, Microsoft issued the new user license for Vista, including terms that would have limited the ability of those who buy a boxed copy of the operating system to transfer that license. Under the proposed terms, users could have made such a switch only one time.

However, the new restriction prompted an outcry among hardware enthusiasts and others. Microsoft is returning the licensing terms to basically what they were in Windows XP--users can transfer their license to a new PC an unlimited number of times, provided they uninstall and stop using it on the prior machine.

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Today Microsoft announced they may pull out of China, will support Linux and now they're reversing their draconian licensing terms for Vista. What the heck is going on up in Redmond?
1 posted on 11/02/2006 11:24:58 AM PST by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
What the heck is going on up in Redmond?

"And Ballmer's heart grew three sizes larger that day."

2 posted on 11/02/2006 11:28:50 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: HAL9000
" What the heck is going on up in Redmond?"

Perhaps customers made their displeasure known in sufficient numbers to make a difference.

3 posted on 11/02/2006 11:33:46 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: HAL9000
What the heck is going on up in Redmond?

It's called business. You tick off your customers too often and they quit spending their money with you.

4 posted on 11/02/2006 11:34:53 AM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: HAL9000

Well, Vista's license limit will remain "for idiots only"... hehe


5 posted on 11/02/2006 11:40:46 AM PST by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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To: HAL9000
The real crown jewels of Microsoft are Office, SQL Server, Visual Studio/.NET, and Outlook, not Windows. If the whole world abandoned Windows, Microsoft could port all of those applications to Linux, the Mac, or any other OS that's worth the trouble and still make a fortune. The business world may originally have adopted DOS and Windows because it ran on cheap non-proprietary hardware (and because IBM spent money pitching the platform to business before they lost control of it) but businesses stick witn Windows because of Office and Outlook, not because they love the OS.
6 posted on 11/02/2006 11:47:21 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: HAL9000

Glad to hear this.


7 posted on 11/02/2006 11:49:07 AM PST by conservativepoet
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To: HAL9000
Locking the OS to the hardware makes their anti-piracy efforts much simpler.

I can understand why they would want to do it. I just find it unacceptable to have to repurchase Windows if I change too many parts in my computer and Windows recognizes it as a different computer, or if I decide to upgrade to a new computer and decide that I don't need Windows on the old one anymore.

Fortunately there are enough consumers that also feel that locking Windows to the hardware is unacceptable that it would be a bad business decision for Microsoft to do so.

However, I hardly consider a company making efforts to limit the ability of people to pirate their products draconian.

Windows has it's merits and it's flaws, but considering all that it does, as well as the continuous effort to supply security fixes, driver updates, and even some feature updates, I can't really complain about the nominal price of the OS.

If you think that nominal price is too high you can try Linux or one of the other free alternatives. However, they also have their good points and their limitations.

8 posted on 11/02/2006 11:57:13 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: Question_Assumptions

Currently there is no viable option for the typical PC user besides Windows. Linux is still not ready for prime time. It is great for people who know excatly what they are doing but the average user would find the learning curve daunting. Windows is as aeasy as turn on the computer and use it. Linux requires more end user input to use simple things like a CDROM. Of course OS X is only available on a Mac (who can use Windows also btw) so PC users are stucks until someone develops a more user friendly Linux.


9 posted on 11/02/2006 12:01:57 PM PST by rtsimon
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To: antiRepublicrat
What the heck is going on up in Redmond?

"And Ballmer's heart grew three sizes larger that day."

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I'll believe that when I see the cardiologist's report.
10 posted on 11/02/2006 12:37:56 PM PST by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Question_Assumptions

You are right on point.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were going to soak up all the money from the impending Vista release, then announce that they are cutting Windows loose.

"We are spinning off our Windows subsidiary."


11 posted on 11/02/2006 12:41:20 PM PST by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Cheburashka

It is quite possible Windows will someday be available for free download from Microsoft servers, just as they have done with their Express versions of Visual C#, C++, Basic, Web, etc.. They would continue to charge for support, advanced versions of programming languages, SQL servers, and web servers and services. The Windows OS could be the free hook to draw you into the MS world.


12 posted on 11/02/2006 12:59:04 PM PST by gb63
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To: HAL9000
>Microsoft announced they may pull out of China, will support Linux and now they're reversing their draconian licensing terms for Vista. What the heck is going on up in Redmond?

And they announced that
in two years, when Gates retires,
the new CEO

will be Hippie Girl!
And the Zune will download all
Grateful Dead songs free!








13 posted on 11/02/2006 1:06:52 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: gb63
Another possibility.

It will be interesting to see what Microsoft does.

And somehow I think Vista will be a disappointment, at least when measured against how long the computer world has been waiting for it.
14 posted on 11/02/2006 1:08:50 PM PST by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Cheburashka

I was on MS's list for beta testing and then RC1 of Vista. Ran it in a Vmware machine. Don't like the strong WGA type checking. Probably will stick with XP until Ubuntu improves a little more ( and it's pretty good now).


15 posted on 11/02/2006 1:19:21 PM PST by gb63
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To: HAL9000
Funny, I bought XP a couple years ago and installed it on a computer, which then crashed a few days later (non XP related). When I tried to install XP on my old computer, it wouldn't let me.

If I pay for software, I should be able to install it on every computer in the house. If I can't do that, then I won't buy the software.
16 posted on 11/02/2006 1:27:48 PM PST by mysterio
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To: HAL9000
And some news in the other direction. Here are some tidbits: Vista's .NET will have the same censorship clause relating to benchmarking. Yes, you buy software, you test software, but you are not allowed to tell anyone about the tests unless you follow specific procedures. Worst part, the benchmark terms are on a web page that Microsoft could change at any time. IOW, you don't just agree to one license when buying Vista, you accept any changes to it that Microsoft may decide to make in the future. That can't be legal.

Then of course there's the known fact that users of either Home version can't run it in a VM. There's nothing technical preventing it, Microsoft just doesn't want you to. You also can't use BitLocker or any MS DRM-based application (like media player) from within a VM.

It also denies the doctrine of First Sale, in that you can sell your license to one other person, but that person isn't allowed to further sell it.

At least it does admit that consumer protection and other laws may trump these draconian terms. But you test that at your own risk, just little ol' you vs. big multibillion dollar corporation with an army of lawyers.

17 posted on 11/02/2006 1:36:41 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Question_Assumptions
The real crown jewels of Microsoft are Office, SQL Server, Visual Studio/.NET, and Outlook, not Windows.

At this moment, maybe. Windows is still a HUGE piece of their revenue pie. But going forward Office and SQL Server have some serious headwinds from online alternatives. Google has already released online word processor and spreadsheet apps and open source SQL engines are gaining ground also.

The OS gets sold with almost every PC today and at the prices they are getting for Vista, it remains vitally important. As the online apps gain more share, the days of office suites and such are drawing to a close.

18 posted on 11/02/2006 1:46:05 PM PST by getsoutalive
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To: antiRepublicrat

Well played.


19 posted on 11/02/2006 1:46:39 PM PST by getsoutalive
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I think somebody pointed out that their "adhesion clauses" would be challenged and may not have stood up in court.


20 posted on 11/02/2006 1:50:08 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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