Posted on 11/02/2006 8:26:18 AM PST by Dominic Harr
In a month of fighting on Iwo Jima, we had over 6,000 dead, 25,000 wounded.
And that was a victory.
And now, many Americans consider 2,500 dead/20,000 wounded over several years to be a loss!?
The only hope for victory the enemy has is American public opinion. We've won all the battles. We kill more of them than they kill of us. We hold most of the territory.
Yet I even see Rs calling this a 'failed' war, and suggesting we can't win.
!?
It's a bridgehead against the terrorists. A 'target of opportunity'.
We picked the time and place for the battle, chose ground we want to fight on.
We took the battle *to* the enemy, and have now not been attacked on our soil in years.
The Iraq war is a cause celeb for the terrorists. They all want to go fight there. This is a *brilliant* and successful strategy.
I'm too old, now.
I was in the Tx Army Nat'l Guard, many years ago. I would have had to go to Iraq, had I been younger.
And I would have.
Do you agree that in Iraq, the death rate is low, compared to past wars?
Would you agree that compared to the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Viet Nam -- this is a very low-bodycount war?
Compared to assaulting the German trenches at Verdun, is patrolling Fallujah a cake walk?
The term "cake walk" for dead and maimed American soldiers is the issue, not comparisons with previous wars. If I give you some email addresses of mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, spouses and children of the dead, would you be so kind as to write them and tell them their loved-ones died in a "cake walk?"
Can't say... Wasn't at Verdun.
Semper Fi,
NYleatherneck
Completely true.
ah, so there you have it...frankly, I could give a shit less if you "believe me" or not...I did not compare anything to anything...I simply said what I said...maybe you've been in combat, maybe not...I would tend to think you're in the latter group...maybe you'd like to post your service record so my friends can hold up their "cake walk" time in Iraq to yours...
Compared to landing on Omaha beach, is this war in Iraq a cake-walk?
I think what the writer is referring to is the MACRO. In this context the Iraq/Afghan Wars losses are MILITARILY insignificant.....this may sound cold and heartless.....but facts usually are.
Do you know anything about Verdun?
Okay, compared to Iwo Jima. Or Okinawa. Or Omaha beach.
Wasn't there either
Semper Fi,
NYleatherneck
Has anyone wondered why information about the enemy body count is non existent? I know from a good source that we are decimating the enemy like roaches going to their deaths in a roach trap. Soon, the availability of "roaches" will have reached its end. Soon the word will be out that if you go to Iraq, you will not check out. Then, you will have crushed the desire for new martyrs to sacrifice themselves for worthless ideologs and a worthless cause.
The reason the knowledge of our success is not being talked about is that this is part of the war tactic. You never tell the enemy about your successes. You never let them know how well you are doing. The tactic is to make them underestimate your ability. Then you draw them in like a trap to their destruction.
Now repeat these words everyone: We are winning the war in Iraq."
I think the title is insulting to families of dead Iraq War vets.
Whether it IS a war or not is beside the point.
If we told them their children died in a winning conflict, in one we won in a cake-walk, they'd be proud of how their children fought. Yes.
We've become so 'politically correct' that I can't even point out this is an easy war, compared to what a 'bad war' is like?
Every American soldier's death is bad.
That does not make the battles they fought in a disaster.
Vietnam was a "cake walk." For me. I survived...
Compared to landing on Omaha beach, or Iwo Jima, is Iraq currently a cake-walk?
..you mean like "yellow cake"?
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