Posted on 11/01/2006 11:38:10 AM PST by Rodm
U.S. Sustainable Energy Corp. Announces an International Live Web Broadcast, Demonstration and Validation of Its Blockbuster Technology and Unique Biofuels at City Hall in Vidalia, LA Monday October 30, 10:20 am ET
Company Partners With Multicast Media Technologies, Inc. and Akamai Technologies, Inc. to Offer Global Live Satellite-to-Internet Viewing of This Historic Event
NATCHEZ, MS--(MARKET WIRE)--Oct 30, 2006 -- U.S. Sustainable Energy Corp. (Other OTC:LFZA.PK - News) ("USSEC") today announced that it will offer a live Internet broadcast of the previously announced demonstration and validation of its technology to be shown live at 11:00 CST am on Oct. 31st, 2006. Streaming video will come direct from City Hall in Vidalia, LA as the event unfolds. Interested parties can view this live event while it unfolds simply by visiting our direct weblink: http://www.ussec.us/lastellalighting/
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Since when does 1 bu = 1 gallon? Care to check that math?
see 19 for my math using one million acres. If you only have supply for 29 thousand cars per year, then you supply cannot meet demand, hence a rise in prices. if this stuff is so wonderful, then folks will demand it and the price will increase further until it stabilizes at just below oil based fuel.
this is because the main advantage if cost, and with short supplies, the price will rise as far as the market and settle at a level where people will still see an advantage from alternatives - just below normal prices.
I was assuming that that wuold be the maximum yield. I know, and you probabbly do as well, that actual yield will be far below that since you cannot obtain more than one bushel of fuel from one bushel of product can you?
how many bushels of apples do you need to get one gallon of ceider?
I checked and they said a barrel is 42 gallons and the fuel you get might get out of the 42 gallons could vary quite a bit. The number I saw for 87 Octane was 28 gallons.
Do the math right.
The article stated 1 Bushel produced 5 gallons of fuel.
THe demonstration site listed an average of 50 bushels per acre.
That is 250 gallons per acre. Per year (more is you get 2 crops from the same land).
Burning 5 gallons per week (150 miles per week @ 30 mpg)would allow 1 acre to supply fuel for 1 vehicle for 50 weeks.
so you're talking a 2/3 yield. that means that even more land would be needed per car than my calculations - admittedly biased.
A bushel is roughly 10 gallons, btw. My clamming license is good for a half bushel of clams a day, They say we can fill a 5 gallon bucket to just below the reinforcement rings, about 2" from the top.
(OK, so it's 9.3092 gallons)
who only burns five gallons per week? I didn't do that when I lived a mile from work! I burn a tankful of gas (14 gallons) per week, maybe a tad more, and most people have longer commutes than I.
but even if we use your figures, one acre per car per year, there are how many cars in the US? 150 million? how soon before you can have a significant portion of that acerage in production?
you are so correct! prices will rise to fill demand, costs will rise to meet prices. adn around and around we go.
I like the idea of bio fuels and think that E85 or flex fuels are the future to explore NOW. To bad someone didn't get some folks on this press conference that don't look like slick operators. They look poorly prepared and their testing system could have been done on a film and presented to the group showing the vehicles used in the test. This is the difference between a great presentation and this one. They may have the best technology and the worst sales presentation. Time will tell if they win some business.
2.7 billion X 5 = 13 billion gallons if you use all the soybean and I sure we can grow alot more.
The distribution tables for US soybeans for 2002/3 (preliminary) show that of 2.793 billion bushels of soybean consumption, 65% (1.615 billion bushels) went for crushing into soy meal and soy oil, 42% went to exports (1.045 billion bushels), and 5% went to seed, feed and residual (133 million bushels). For 2003/04, the USDA is forecasting a decline in crushings to 1.485 billion bushels (59%), a decline in exports to 890 million bushels (36%), and a slight reduction in seed/feed/residuals to 129 million bushels (5%).
I burn 10 gallons every 11-12 days. I have a 17 mile commute, 1 way.
Did it occur to you that many, many people might buy smaller commuter cars if they got 50 mpg and the fuel was naturally produced?
Did it occur to you that we might have a MIX of cars on the road, daily commuters going bio-diesel and weekend vehicles using petroleum?
Not every vehicle has to run on the same type of fuel.
They only get one crop per year here in North Alabama. I'm sure some climates might could get 2.
Bryan24 says that you can get 2 crops per year. Farmers here in CT usually get three cuttings of hay, and I wouldn't know how this translates, but I have little reason to doubt him.
My worries about this are many. I was just reading a boating mag yesteerday and they expressed concern about E10 fuel (10%Ethanol) which many marinas are converting to. Apparently it raises heck with marine engines, and causes more corrosion if internal parts.
People are talking about how great E85 is. I shudder to think!
Now I have no idea how bad soy gas is compared to E10 or regular unleaded, but I've seen 'miracle fuels' come and go, and seen the damage they do to engines.
And I think the total cost of this is going to evolve into a lot more than 50 cents a gallon.
Watch the video, this fuel lubs the cyclinder and burn cool
I mistyped. I meant to type "if you can get more than 1 crop per year".
I'm sure some climates can. I don't think North Alabama can get 2 soybean crops per year. I know they can't with cotton.
You are trying to debate a mixture of bad math and bad logic. Trust me, i am not a fan of ethanol, but I don't see any proble with replacing some of the current petrodiesel use with biodiesel. It's currently being done profitably, too.
we do have 50 mpg cars on the road today - a lot of them hybrids. People just don't seem to like them. I average 17-20 mpg with the GT, and about the same with the Jeep. That isn't bad mileage (Jag gets between 4-8) considering. Most people I know drive further and burn more gas than I.
adn if you have a mix of different-fuel cars, then you'd have to have a mix of different-fuel gas stations to support them. Deisel cars didn't take over the market (like we were told) in part because the fuel delivery infrastructure isn't there. 30 years later it still isn't.
And deisel is far more common than exotic plant-based fuel is.
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