Posted on 11/01/2006 11:05:28 AM PST by RedCell
With the recent s-storm caused by J.F. Kerry, he brought up his Viet Nam service again. This got me thinking. Whatever happened to the special form (SF-180) he was supposed to sign that would release his records?
I did a news search on Google and came up dry (literally) when querying on "kerry form 180". A web search was more useful but all of it was old. Same thing with the search engine up here on FR.
Just curious (but not about why the MSM gave him a total pass on this).
Because, you dope, he has prior experience in conducting surrender talks with Communists.
(Do I need the /sarc tag ?)
"He will never sign and release his SF-180 because he knows that would end his political career."
Regardless of what his records revealed I suspect he'd continue to be re-elected in Massachusetts. Hell, he could even drive a car off a bridge and kill some.........oh nevermind. :-)
Incidently, that Globe reporter is also Kerry's biographer.
Kerry has not released any documents- Not even his SF180 Form!- claims that he did are just that -*
Bush DID sign SF180- and it is there for everyone to see.
*- Skerry has released MINIMAL pages for public consumption.They me be real OR MODIFIED.
Now would be the perfect time for those sign making troops in Iraq to do a "Hey Kerry lets see your 180" poster.
Excuse me! -"they MAY be real OR MODIFIED"
Excuse me! -"they MAY be real OR MODIFIED"
180 ping!
N O T S O
He did let some author (name escapes me but he's written favorable articles and books about The Snake) see "selective parts" of this record.
STILL WAITING, Jean?
Kerry won't release his discharge papers since they allegedly show that he was given an "Other than honorable" discharge.
Very true. Some battles have been won...SwiftBoatVets, Dan Rather. We've got some of them looking over their shoulder.
I pray that is true but I have my doubts.
Powerlineblog.com, on June 20, 2005, published photos of three form 180s, signed by Kerry, that were obtained under the FOI Act. Apparently, they authorize the release of only his active duty information -- not his reserve service information.
here is just a little of the crap that is out there-
Basically, who are you going to believe? Kerry?
Did Kerry really release Navy records?
June 9, 2005
BY THOMAS H. LIPSCOMB
A front page story in the Boston Globe claimed that: "Senator John F. Kerry, ending at least two years of refusal, has waived privacy restrictions and authorized the release of his full military and medical records." In another Globe story Kerry had promised "The truth in its entirety will come out." But did it?
Kerry's election hopes faltered last summer and fall as accusations of fraudulent and incomplete military records were aired. The fact that Kerry repeatedly refused to sign a single-page military form called the Standard Form 180, that would have released all his military records to the public, was taken as proof he had something to hide.
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth head John O'Neill, who raised many of the charges against Kerry during the campaign, was challenged by Kerry on "Meet the Press" in January. Kerry promised he would sign his Standard Form 180, but he wanted former Swift Boat officer O'Neill to sign as well.
All depends on how it's filled out
O'Neill did sign it and provided copies to the Chicago Sun-Times. According to O'Neill, "The Standard Form 180 could release 'the full military and medical records.' Or it could release just a few. It all depends on how it is filled out and where it was sent."
"There is nothing magic about signing a SF 180," said former Naval Judge Advocate General Mark Sullivan. "It is sort of like your checkbook. You can fill out a check for one dollar or a million. It is the same check form."
"And the Globe story says Kerry sent it to the Navy Personnel Command, which is only a limited storage location. So it is not surprising that the Globe then notes that what they received was largely 'duplication' of records previously released. The Navy Personnel Command primarily stores a subset of service records rather than a person's full military records. There is no doubt there are a lot of after-action records missing from what Kerry has released," said Sullivan.
Kerry's not talking
Washington Post reporter Michael Dobbs has already found a discrepancy confirmed by the Department of the Navy of "at least a hundred pages" missing from those already disclosed by Kerry.
"If you take a look at my SF 180," O'Neill said, "you will see I have authorized the total release of all my records to anyone requesting to see them. But without seeing how Kerry's SF 180 was filled out, everyone is only guessing about what was released."
So how an SF 180 is filled out is as important as signing it. But no one in the press has yet claimed to have seen a copy of Kerry's SF-180. When asked if she had a copy of Kerry's SF 180, the Globe's Managing Editor Mary Jane Wilkinson said, "I haven't seen it, and I don't know if anyone here has."
Kerry's Senate offices could not provide a copy of the Kerry SF 180 and would not answer inquiries. Is it possible that Kerry filled it out wrong or sent it to the wrong place?
O'Neill made Kerry an offer. "I'll be happy to bring one to Kerry's office and help him fill it out. And then we can take mine and his and deliver them to the right place together to make sure, as Kerry puts it, 'the truth in its entirety will come out.' "
Now that the Boston Globe has in its possession what it claims are Kerry's "full military and medical records," is the Globe ready to make these records available to the public? Wilkinson replied, "It is my understanding that Kerry will release these papers to anyone else now that he has signed the Form 180. The Boston Globe is not going to make available the papers we have received."
Thomas H. Lipscomb is a senior fellow at the Annenberg Center for the Digital Future at USC.
The three photos of Kerry's form 180s can be found at ...
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/2005_06.php
about 1/3 of the way down the page.
No, it was not ultimately released. He released only those portions that he chose to release. He never signed SF180 permitting full government disclosure of his records.
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