Rest in Peace, old friend, your work is finished.......
Diesel "Ping" List: If you want on or off the DIESEL "KNOCK" LIST just FReepmail me........
Posted on 11/01/2006 10:39:51 AM PST by Red Badger
Rest in Peace, old friend, your work is finished.......
Diesel "Ping" List: If you want on or off the DIESEL "KNOCK" LIST just FReepmail me........
Remember this is from Australia. They have to import all their oil. So for them it may be economically viable.......
>>>This is almost as bad as the whole "grow grain for ethanol" fiasco.
Are you in the "once corn is used for ethanol there's noting left" crowd? If so, you're woefully ignorant.
Interesting.
A hectare is about 2 acres not 250 acres.
I'd be glad to send him a few Popcorn tree seeds..........
1 hectare = 2.5 acres, not 250.
http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictH.html
Um. 1 hectare is 2.47 acres.
There was some research done a few years ago about turning "greasewood" or "creosote bush" into a sort of Diesel fuel. I guess it worked, but the yield per acre was not so good, and cultivation would have turned the locality into a threatened environment or something.
Two and a half acres is quite a reasonable amount of land to set aside for liquid fuel. People set aside more than that for woodlots. I just set a search running on ebay to see if I can find some seeds. The minuscule amount of research I've done in the last few minutes says it's a tropical tree, but that there are over 40 related species.
CNG/LPG Direct Injection, these fuels are dramatically cheaper than even diesel in certain parts of the world.
Page 6 if my memory is correct.
Wrong. 1 hectare = 2.47 acres.
http://www.alternatefuelsworld.com/ http://www.greencarcongress.com/
Yes, I remember that. But these other sources are safer because the fuel stays put until you extract it..........
Okay, if I'm following this correctly, they recommend planting 1000 trees on the equivalent of 2.5 A of land.
About four to six years later they would be measured again before culling them down to between 250 and 350 of the best trees,
So far, we're 4 to 6 years into the project with no financial return.
which would be inter-bred and harvested for seed.
Okay, we're going back to square one and gonna plant seeds again, with no real mention in the article of how long it's going to take a tree to reach maturity and be a maximum producing capacity. It seems it would be 12-15 years just to get the seeds crossbred and producing to grow more trees. That's a long time to go without any cashflow.
It appears this Diesel Tree will only grow in the Tropics, but of course it could be crossbred with a sturdier variety of tree which thrives to zone 2 or 3.
If you're from the upper Midwest, you might recall the Jerusalem Artichoke fiasco. I don't know why Jerusalem Artichokes kept popping into my mind while I read this story.
But, in the case of these trees in Australia (tropical part) you can harvest the sap like maple syrup, not wait for seeds. Thus you would be making fuel while waiting for good hybrid seed production...............
1 hectare = 2.47105381 acres
If you're testing for YIELD after three years, you must be getting something, though obviously not what you'd get from a mature tree. So, pick out the worst half of the trees, drain them dry then cut them down. If the "diesel" thickens beyond use as fuel, it appears to have some health benefits. I wonder if the lumber's any good.
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