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Abortion Clinic Field Trip
Capitol Resource Institute ^ | 10/20/06 | Karen England

Posted on 10/30/2006 6:41:42 AM PST by presidio9

As part of an “activism class,” students at Solebury School, a private school near Philadelphia, were taken to an abortion clinic, donned vests worn by abortion staff, and helped to escort women into the building.

During the field trip students were not permitted to speak to pro-life demonstrators standing outside the building.

“This is very, very disturbing,” said Eileen Stone, a prayer service participant. “These students are only seeing one side. Shouldn’t they see another perspective? After all, education is about seeing the whole picture.”

The teacher organizing the trip, Jason Gordon, said the students weren’t permitted to speak with the pro- life demonstrators because he did not want them to become involved in activism, denying that what they were doing was already a form of activism. He admitted that the children were not given both sides of the argument.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: abortion; babykillers; coathangerscare; cultureofdeath; educashun; infanticide; moralabsolutes; prolife; publikskoolz; roevwade; soleburyschool
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To: .30Carbine

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81 posted on 10/31/2006 3:03:43 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: FreedomProtector

I've been re-memorizing Psalm 19, and praying it - that as the heavens declare the Glory of God and the skies proclaim the work of His Hands; as day after day they pour forth speech, and night after night they display knowledge, so this servant, too, please Lord, may live to show forth Your Life and Beauty, Your Wisdom and Power, the work of Your Hands, amen.


82 posted on 10/31/2006 3:08:06 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: ukie55

It's a lot less expensive than my prep school is, today. This is a very normal range for boarding school tuition and room and board, these days. You don't have to pay it if you don't want to.


83 posted on 10/31/2006 5:59:03 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: WFTR
While I oppose abortion, I still think that an abortion clinic allowing a field trip of this kind is an invasion of the privacy of the women who came to the clinic.

Right. And making prisoners take a dump in the can on their cell in full view of any guard who just happens to walk by is also an invasion of privacy of sorts.

Let me ask you something: Why are you against abortion? Either we are talking about murder here, or a lifeless blob. Which is it with you?

84 posted on 10/31/2006 7:27:05 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: editor-surveyor


To sign a petition to SCOTUS to ban partial birth abortion, phone 1-877-678-7673, or email www.breakthrough.net TODAY! Tell all your friends, too.


85 posted on 10/31/2006 1:09:56 PM PST by Paperdoll ((Defeat the Democommies! VOTE Republican!!!)
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To: presidio9
Right. And making prisoners take a dump in the can on their cell in full view of any guard who just happens to walk by is also an invasion of privacy of sorts.

Wrong - Prisoners have been convicted by our criminal justice system of violating laws that our political bodies have passed. In almost every case, their imprisonment results from their breaking laws that they understood and intended to break. While the loss of privacy is part of their punishment, the policy of keeping everything very open is also part of prison security to protect the guards from the inmates and the inmates from one another.

Whatever you or I believe the laws should be, the women who are in an abortion clinic have not violated any current laws. Until there is a law against abortion and probable cause that one of them has violated this law, violations of the privacy of these citizens is wrong. Organizing field trips to watch them seeking "healthcare" is inappropriate.

Let me ask you something: Why are you against abortion? Either we are talking about murder here, or a lifeless blob. Which is it with you?

I believe that around the time a woman can know that she is pregnant, the unborn child within her womb is a person. As a person, the unborn child has rights. On the other hand, the rights of that person are not absolute just as no one else's rights are absolute. The unique situation of one person living within another person's body makes the situation even less amenable to absolute interpretations. If I were allowed to write the laws, I would prohibit any abortions where someone knowingly ends the life of an unborn child except under a few circumstances. The conditions under which I'd allow those abortions would be stringently controlled.

Does this stand make me insufficiently "pro-life" for you? If so, I really couldn't care. If you feel strongly enough about it, maybe I should stop making abortion a factor in my decisions about which candidates to support. Not worrying about abortion could make things simpler for me.

As long as we're asking questions, I have a couple for you. Do you really oppose abortion or are you just a pro-abortion mole who is trying to drive people from the pro-life position by being offensive and seeming untrustworthy? I look at your response, and my first thought is that you aren't the kind of person that I'd trust to make any kind of law. If I hadn't already come to a conclusion about abortion, I'd lean against your position because I don't think you can be trusted with any kind of power. Are you sure that you're opposed to abortion because of the life issues or are you just excited at the thought of exercising control over others?

Bill

86 posted on 10/31/2006 4:39:09 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: editor-surveyor
Disgusting, but unfortunately not surprising. How utterly and profoundly ironic that just a few years prior, the "pro-choice" types wouldn't even care if these students had been destroyed or not! So, compared to that, filling their heads with this garbage and forcing them to become a part of it is not so shocking. Once you hit bottom, it's hard to sink further.
87 posted on 10/31/2006 8:35:00 PM PST by cvq3842
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To: cvq3842
"Once you hit bottom, it's hard to sink further."

They'll find a way, believe me.

88 posted on 11/01/2006 7:05:12 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: editor-surveyor

There is something deeply, deeply morally wrong (as well as scientifically suspect, to say the least) about a "procedure" that is said to kill something not human (or not a "person") on the one hand, but must on the other hand occur quickly, BEFORE the object of the procedure becomes UMNISTAKABLY human and a "person" deserving of rights. "Quick, impose the 'death penalty' as soon as you can, before they get rights to appeal!"

Also, the argument that embryonic stem cells are so vital to research (research that is NOT attracting sufficient private investment, by the way) because they are so unique and special TOTALLY undercuts the talking point that an unborn human is "just a clump of cells."

I have a lot of other thoughts on the topic, from all angles, but I did want to share those. I may have said this before, but what the heck. :)


89 posted on 11/01/2006 7:27:36 AM PST by cvq3842
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