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1 posted on 10/29/2006 4:20:54 AM PST by Man50D
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What was it that Stalin once said...."it doesn't matter who *casts* the votes,it only matters who *counts* them."

In so many ways,Chavez is going right along with the playbook.

2 posted on 10/29/2006 4:23:18 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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R.Y.M.B!


3 posted on 10/29/2006 4:26:49 AM PST by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
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The Dems are too close to Hugo Chavez.


4 posted on 10/29/2006 4:34:49 AM PST by Brilliant
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It is long past time to deny visas to all Venezuelan passport holders.

Any Venezuelans who wanted out of that Communist hellhole have left already.

Next, diplomatic ties should be broken and their embassage kicked out. They should not even be granted visas to attend the UN.

Lock them out.

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5 posted on 10/29/2006 4:37:49 AM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it!)
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Actually we deserve it - for laughing off the Dems when they said that they wanted a "paper trail".
6 posted on 10/29/2006 5:00:22 AM PST by BobL (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/blog/4556 (here is where the real Europe is going))
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Incredible if true.


7 posted on 10/29/2006 5:12:31 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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"Diaz said he was part of an operation in which Chavez gave $1 million to al-Qaida for relocation costs, shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States. Why is this not on every newspaper's front page? And why hasn't this testimony been brought before the United Nations to deny Venezuela a seat on the security council.
8 posted on 10/29/2006 5:16:46 AM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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Maybe we shouldn't have just laughed at all the DUmmies who whined about Diebold fixing elections. We should have taken that as a sign that the LEFT is going to try to "fix" the machines to fix the elections. Leftists are dirty, filthy lying, thieving, bastards. The world would be better off without them.


9 posted on 10/29/2006 5:24:07 AM PST by MichiganConservative (The US is so full of domestic enemies, maybe all we can do is slow the inevitable ascent of tyranny.)
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...and you wondered why Carter and Sheehan thought this guy was OK.


11 posted on 10/29/2006 5:48:21 AM PST by Tenyaka
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Yes. There is reason to be concerned about this.

According to Alvaro Vargas Llosa:

6. In December, 2004, a "gag law" was imposed making it easy to prosecute journalists. Chavez continually threatens to withdraw TV and radio licenses--the reason why there are no opinion programs on network TV.(My note; eerie resemblance to McCain-Feingold)

Another of his frauds involves the electoral system. Chavez has manipulated the voter registration rolls, adding two million phantom voters, including 30,000 who are 100 years old and citizens names "Superman."

**

And here

The Maisanta database includes every single registered voter in the country. I am still trying to get the latest version, the one I obtained is from last year, but the point is the same. It is likely the newest version represents simply a deeper and more widespread violation of our rights.

From this, we can have: his address, whether he signed or not to recall Chavez, his date of birth, address (sometimes with telephone), as well as the voting center that he uses. Additionally, he is "rated" as whether he is a good voter or not, based on his recent activity as a voter. Finally, the software is cross-referenced with whether the voter is a member of two of the Government's social missions, Mision Ribas, the program to graduate people from high school in a short time, and Vuelvan Caras, a "œscholarship" by which the Government gives people a monthly stipend to participate in projects to work against poverty and social exclusion

You may wonder how I knew the ID number of the Prosecutor General? Easy, the software has a very cumbersome sequential search tool that finds all of the Isaias Rodriguez' of the country, if by chance you did not know his ID number.

The software comes in a CD; you install it (3 Gbytes) and are ready to go. You don't know anyone that has it? Easy go to Plaza Bolivar in downtown Caracas and for Bs. 3,000 or 4,000 you have your own copy. (The Chavistas distributed over 35,000 of them last year for the recall vote and the regional elections).

This window has lots of information to discriminate, harass, classify and label people near wher you live. You have the ID number, age, whether the person signed petitions against the opposition, against Chavez, whether the person is rated as "opposition", abstainer and in columns not shown, whether the person signed or not against Chavez and if his or her signature were rejected or not. Then in the buttons below, you can print, search, filter according to categories or simply click on the button labeled "patriots". Press that and you only see the true "Aryans" loyal to the process, those that signed against the opposition. These are your revolutionary, fascist buddies, ready to die or whatever for the revolution. In fact, if they are not on your side but they participate in any of the misiones, you can threaten them with removal of their meager perks, if they don't want to follow orders. Cute, immoral and perverse, no?

12 posted on 10/29/2006 6:14:31 AM PST by Alia
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This is unbelievably bad...the enemies of the state are controlling the machines!

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=589189


15 posted on 10/29/2006 8:06:28 AM PST by eleni121 ("Show me just what Mohammed brought:: evil and inhumanity")
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Chavez has made it clear his goal in life is to bring the U.S. to its knees

Which candidates will the Smartmatic's Sequoia Voting Systems machines need to elect in order to bring the U.S. to its knees?

16 posted on 10/29/2006 8:31:54 AM PST by MosesKnows
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Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez may control the company that operates electronic voting machines in 17 states.

And those 17 states are...??????

17 posted on 10/29/2006 8:33:38 AM PST by MosesKnows
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could result in a historic shift of power

Probably not historic even if Chavez wins, but it does point out that the Ds are after power, as are the enviros and the anti-wars, and every other interest group nobody is interested in.

19 posted on 10/29/2006 8:36:20 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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More likely Chavez is in this to secure his OWN elections rather than to influence US ones.


20 posted on 10/29/2006 8:39:53 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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Venezuelans had provided technical support during the election and that some of the glitches could be traced to a component developed in Venezuela to print and transmit results to a central tabulation computer.

This is beyond funny. "Don't worry... it's just the part that transmits the totals to the central tabulator..."

26 posted on 10/29/2006 10:41:55 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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just another reason not to trust these voting machines. MD Governor Bob Ehrlich has been pleading with people to vote via absentee ballot because the MD systems have so many flaws


28 posted on 10/29/2006 10:52:18 AM PST by ChurtleDawg (Go Mike Steele!)
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Honestly, if we aren't worried about Diebold machines, in which exploits have been proven, then why are we worried about Chavez?

These machines have been independently certified and leave a paper trail.

Unless the DUmmies actually are on to something, to which I understand the concern, but if the technology is fine, there can't be a concern.

Right?
31 posted on 10/29/2006 12:57:40 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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Other than going against the "we've got to know the winner the moment the polls close" tide, can someone please explain just what in Sam Hill is wrong with hand-counted paper ballots?


32 posted on 10/29/2006 3:17:32 PM PST by thelastvirgil (Lest ye put all your faith in the government to provide for you, check their track record.)
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If the Democrats win big and Carter proclaims that it was an honest election. Watch out. He said the same for Chavez. See where Venezuela is now.
38 posted on 10/29/2006 4:54:10 PM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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