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IT'S OK TO KILL GAYS - BRITISH IMAM
GCN ^ | 10/24/2006 | staff

Posted on 10/29/2006 3:54:12 AM PST by EBH

The leading imam in Manchester, confirms that he thinks the execution of sexually active gay men is justified, the rights group Outrage reported.

Arshad Misbahi of the Manchester Central Mosque confirmed his views in a conversation to John Casson, a local psychotherapist.

Casson said: "I asked him if the execution of gay Muslims in Iran and Iraq was an acceptable punishment in Sharia law, or the result of culture, not religion.

"He told me that in a true Islamic state, such punishments were part of Islam: If the person had had a trial, at which four witnesses testified that they had seen the actual homosexual acts."

"I asked him what would be the British Muslim view? He repeated that in an Islamic state these punishments were justified. They might result in the deaths of thousands but if this deterred millions from having sex, and spreading disease, then it was worthwhile to protect the wider community."

"I checked again that this was not a matter of tradition, culture or local prejudice. 'No,' he said, 'It is part of the central tenets of Islam: that sex outside marriage is forbidden; this is stated in the Koran and the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) had stated that these punishments were due to such behaviours.'"

Gay man rights campaigner Peter Tatchell said, "It is disturbing that some British imams are endorsing the execution of gay and lesbian Muslims.

"Imam Arshad Misbahi's homophobic attitudes give comfort and succor to queer-bashers. They encourage conflict and disharmony between Manchester's large gay and Muslim communities.

"Muslim and gay people know the pain of prejudice and discrimination. We should be working together to challenge homophobia and Islamophobia. I hope liberal Muslims will speak out in defense of the human rights of lesbians and gay men," said Tatchell.

Adnan Ali, founder of the British branch of al-Fatiha, an organisation for gay and lesbian Muslims, told Gay.com that "a person with such an obsession about execution of human beings is not even entitled to be addressed as Imam."

"Islam is a very tolerant religion and celebrates the human diversity in its core message," Ali said.

"The holy book Qur'an does not mention anywhere about the execution or killing of human beings on the basis of their sexuality. What surprises is this obsession of the Islamic clerics to killing and execution. Why? What about dialogue? Discussion?

"Arshad Misbahi's comparison of same-sex relation to adultery is nothing but ignorant and utterly irresponsible rhetoric, manifesting the wrong teachings of Islam. The media should . . . not take it for granted as the general view of the Muslim community all over."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gayagenda; liberalmindset; religion; rop; wot
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To: EBH

Cleric risks angering the left!


41 posted on 10/29/2006 5:22:18 AM PST by omega4179 (Cheese eating surrender monkeys)
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To: EBH
"He told me that in a true Islamic state, such punishments were part of Islam: If the person had had a trial, at which four witnesses testified that they had seen the actual homosexual acts."

Four witnesses?

Maybe I'm more even square than I thought, but there aren't four people who could testify that they've seen my actual heterosexual acts, unless hugging and hand-holding count.

42 posted on 10/29/2006 5:23:27 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Nextrush
When the Soviets launched Sputnik in the 1950's (thanks to captured German rocket scientists from WW II) liberals used the event to say there might be something we could learn from the Soviet system and initiated federal funding of public schools for the first time in American history.

Yeah, liberals like Eisenhower.

43 posted on 10/29/2006 5:24:22 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: EllenZ
Ever hear "the wages of sin is death"? (Romans 6:23)

Yes.

What's your point? Are you saying Christians also advocate putting sexual sinners to death?

44 posted on 10/29/2006 5:25:22 AM PST by Gritty (The evil deeds of a wicked man ensnare him, the cords of his sin hold him fast - Proverbs 5:22)
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To: wouldntbprudent
We should be working together to challenge homophobia and Islamophobia... " said Tatchell.

Dear Mr. Tatchell doesn't seem to understand that he needs to have a bit of islamophobia right now...they just threatened his life!

45 posted on 10/29/2006 5:25:46 AM PST by EBH (All great truths begin as blasphemies. GB Shaw)
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To: Wilhelm Tell

Gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell said, Allah be praised! Pass the Gay Grenade!

{/sarcasm orgasm} ROFL!


46 posted on 10/29/2006 5:25:58 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: ReignOfError

Four muslims just heard your admission of homosexuality. Remember you won't go to a real court, you'll go to a sharia court if you're lucky.


47 posted on 10/29/2006 5:27:34 AM PST by EBH (All great truths begin as blasphemies. GB Shaw)
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To: ReignOfError

Ooops! My bad... sorry...


48 posted on 10/29/2006 5:28:49 AM PST by EBH (All great truths begin as blasphemies. GB Shaw)
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To: Gritty

There are a lot more sinners than homosexuals being involved here in death penalties for illicit sex.

49 posted on 10/29/2006 5:37:29 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: EBH

You'd think Hollywood and Libs everywhere would find this a tad worrying.


50 posted on 10/29/2006 5:39:59 AM PST by hershey
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To: EBH; All
What a laugh. The Imams and Muslims around the Syria Lebanon Area ( Balbek) have supported a homosexual male culture for a thousand years.Homosexuals used to be kept in harems and were veiled like women, so that no one outside the harems could know.

Likewise, the purdah, or veiling and sequestration of multiple wives also encouraged lesbianism.

All of the mullahs know this. And the Islamofascists want to excoriate these "ancient " gay traditions. They will kill them , not because the ancient homosexual Arab culture is "immoral" but because the ancient Muslim gay culture is a threat to the Islamofascist hierarchy as a separate and "subversive" secret hierarchy that seeks the ends of peaceful co-existance with non Muslims, and homo sexual sex with non- Muslims.

These mullahs reveal that they are indeed FASCIST, because they continue to pronounce WHO is a human being and who is not, just like the Nazis. So far these are the nonhuman categories:

1) Infidels who will not convert to Islam,

2) Muslims who do not subscribe to Sharia,

3) homosexual and lesbian Muslims

4)Republicans

5) Filmmakers who reveal the true goals of the current Islamofascist movement

6) Writers who reveal the true goals of the ISlamofascist movement

7) Politicians who refuse to give special treatment to Immigrants who wish to have Sharia as their community law instead of the Lex Patria

8) Cartoonists who make images which "disrespect" Mohammed and his acknowledged pederastic habits revealed by historical fact.

I am not in favor of gay culture by any means, whether it is Western or Eastern, but the proper historical perspective needs to be invoked on this issue.The Muslim gay movement, thousands of yeras old as a tradition, can be exploited by the west to form a fifth column inside of the World Caliphate movement, to fight against the World caliphate Movement.

The ancient gay Muslim movement is a trojan horse waiting to be used by the West.

THE CIA AND THE FBI SHOULD BE AWARE OF THIS FACT, AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT FOR INTELLIGENCE AND SUVERSION PURPOSES.

Homosexual culture and pederasty is an ancient tradition, and many Mullahs engage in it in public, as this photo attests:

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51 posted on 10/29/2006 5:44:56 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: Nextrush
The poor liberals wish they could tar Jerry Falwell and James Dobson with this kind of stuff,

Every evil leftists fantasize Christianity and Judaism to be, Islam is.

52 posted on 10/29/2006 5:49:10 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Grut
You're wrong.

No one on Free Republic cuts Fred Phelps a millimeter of slack because of his hate gays message.

I've heard no one talk positively about Lyndon LaRouche and his quarantine gays message.

I've heard many oppose many oppose the Gay Movement and its "Let's Pour Industrial-Strength Solvent on Western Civilization" proposals.
53 posted on 10/29/2006 5:50:58 AM PST by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Candor7

I am amazed you forgot to put on the list any female who does not wear a head-to-toe burka!


54 posted on 10/29/2006 5:55:27 AM PST by Gumdrop
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To: Jazzman1
the nitwit LIBERALS. When the jihadists come who do u think they'll behead first? Hollywood and the homos just dont know whats at stake here for them. Ah, but its so much easier for them to bash AMerica and bash Bush.
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The problem is that Nitwit Left believe nothing bad happens in the world. If something bad happens in the world Conservatives/Republicans caused it. They apply that to everything, even 9/11,

If the Jihadist was holding a sword to his throat, the Nitwit explanation would be that George Bush caused it. He made the Jihadist slit his throat. He'd forgive the Jihadist and sentence George Bush to death.
56 posted on 10/29/2006 5:56:30 AM PST by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Sloth
how many years it will take the 'useful idiot' libs to realize that these people are *not* their friends

The Islamo-fascists could be lopping off the heads of the New York Times editorial staff for blasphemy and the libs would still think that the greatest threat was from the Christian right.

57 posted on 10/29/2006 5:57:44 AM PST by reg45
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To: Canard; ItisaReligionofPeace

I think IIARP meant it was a very mild refute when one would expect a blazing and emotional demand for such ideas to be condemned by the government and the press, and perhaps call for the lodging of charges against the "cleric". I too found it a rather weak statement, not the condemnation that would have been forthcoming had a non-muslim made such a statement.


58 posted on 10/29/2006 6:06:23 AM PST by pepperdog
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To: Mrs Ivan

"When it does, I expect to be deafened by the silence of feminists and gay rights activists.


And you will be! They have NEVER spoken out against the Muslims, and that fact makes them know for what they are. They actually care nothing for the rights of women or gays. The really sad part is how many misinformed people follow their siren's song and don't realize they are actually basking in the company of those who would kill them.


59 posted on 10/29/2006 6:13:39 AM PST by pepperdog
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To: Gumdrop
I am amazed you forgot to put on the list any female who does not wear a head-to-toe burka!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You are right you know, but it has to bew a female who refuses to wear a head to toe burka AND, who refuses to marry her 60 year old Uncle and takes a boyfriend instead on her own choice.

Good reminder Gumdrop!

60 posted on 10/29/2006 6:15:33 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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