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The New Atheists: Researchers Crusade against American Fundamentalists (EuroPress Alert)
Der Spiegel Online ^ | October 26, 2006 | Jörg Blech

Posted on 10/28/2006 8:46:36 PM PDT by Jacob Kell

In the United States, atheists are becoming an ostracized minority. But now evolutionary biologists are trying to turn the tables: According to their argument, religion is the source of evil. Morals and selflessness are not God-given - they are the result of evolution.

When Richard Dawkins, a zoologist at Oxford University, steps up to the altar he seems visibly pleased to see the pews in the church fully occupied. In the best Queen's English, he reads from his book: "The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: atheism; biologist; christophobia; evolution; misotheism; religion; richarddawkins; theocracy; theophobia
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To: WKB
Hitler was a Christian crap again.

Yeah, you people hate facts when they're inconvenient, don't you...

If someone put you on roller skates on you,parked you in a garage and stuck and tail pipe up your butt would that make you a car? You nor Hitler have any concept of what a Christian is.

The "no True Scotsman" fallacy you people employ is really lame. You people really need to get a new line.

That Hitler was a Catholic is a historic fact. Even if he did something to make him not be a Catholic any more, it still doesn't change the fact that he was a Catholic. Further, it is clear that he also believed that he was sent by Providence to do what he did. You can deny it all you want, but it won't change the facts.

141 posted on 10/29/2006 2:08:37 PM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: WildHorseCrash

No, they were successful because THEY learned to cooperate with him.


142 posted on 10/29/2006 2:10:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: WildHorseCrash

That's the "dominion over" part ~ you are misinterpreting it. When you have "dominion over" you are responsible for the yin and the yan ~


143 posted on 10/29/2006 2:12:37 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Wormwood

It might be noted that creatures can exhibit behavior without any nervous system at all. Plants can do this. Microbes also. Behavior is taken to be a sign of consciousness, if not self-consciousness.


144 posted on 10/29/2006 2:16:17 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: muawiyah
No, they were successful because THEY learned to cooperate with him.

Nonsense. He was born into a working, cooperating society. He was a functioning member of it. He could not have risen to power within his group, which gave him the ability to do the things he did, if he could not work within that cooperative structure.

145 posted on 10/29/2006 2:16:25 PM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: WildHorseCrash
That Hitler was a Catholic is a historic fact.

You just don't' get it do you? Being a Catholic makes a person no more a Christian than a tailpipe makes one a car.

I was a member of Southern Baptist Church for
20 years before I became a Christian.
Being a Christian is based on Faith in
Jesus Christ not being a member of a church
or denomination.
That's the part a lot people failed to understand.

146 posted on 10/29/2006 2:17:15 PM PST by WKB (I Refuse To Have A Battle Of Wits With An Unarmed Person.)
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To: muawiyah
That's the "dominion over" part ~ you are misinterpreting it. When you have "dominion over" you are responsible for the yin and the yan ~

Well, if you take the "responsible" part seriously, then good for you. What I've seen is Christians supporting the destruction of the natural world if it can make someone a buck, on the grounds that God gave it to us to do whatever we want with it. I think that attitude is deplorable.

147 posted on 10/29/2006 2:19:17 PM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: WildHorseCrash

I don't believe you.


148 posted on 10/29/2006 2:19:53 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: WildHorseCrash
He got all the girls because even the girls knew they had to cooperate with him.

Ghengis Khan's position in history is nearly unique.

149 posted on 10/29/2006 2:21:03 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Jacob Kell

Dawkins is the perfect example of a man who has educated himself into imbecility.


150 posted on 10/29/2006 2:21:07 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: WildHorseCrash
That Hitler was a Catholic is a historic fact. Even if he did something to make him not be a Catholic any more, it still doesn't change the fact that he was a Catholic. Further, it is clear that he also believed that he was sent by Providence to do what he did. You can deny it all you want, but it won't change the facts.

Congratualations - you may be the first person in human history to try and open your mouth to make the argument that religious affiliation is genetic.
151 posted on 10/29/2006 2:22:51 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: WildHorseCrash
The countries that have the cleanest and most healthful environments tend to be the countries with Judeo-Christian histories and backgrounds.

Want to find total disasters? Visit the officially atheist former Soviet Bloc countries.

Check and checkmate.

152 posted on 10/29/2006 2:24:17 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: WKB

If one is a Catholic, that person is, as a result, a Christian. It's definitional. You can define a "Christian" in a different way, regardless of whether the larger world does so. That does not mean that your unique definition is controlling. That is the No True Scotsman Fallacy.


153 posted on 10/29/2006 2:28:58 PM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: muawiyah
I don't believe you.

Believe what you want, I don't give a damn.

154 posted on 10/29/2006 2:30:30 PM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: WildHorseCrash

I repeat:

"You just don't get it do you"

Bless your heart I hope you
find The Truth one day.


155 posted on 10/29/2006 2:30:52 PM PST by WKB (I Refuse To Have A Battle Of Wits With An Unarmed Person.)
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To: WildHorseCrash

Just walk on by. I don't need a keeper.


156 posted on 10/29/2006 2:32:04 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
He got all the girls because even the girls knew they had to cooperate with him.

Ghengis Khan's position in history is nearly unique.

When he started amassing his power, no he wasn't. That he eventually did reach such a position is irrelevant to the fact that he had to learn to cooperate within his group in order to lead that group.

157 posted on 10/29/2006 2:32:31 PM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: WildHorseCrash
What I've seen is Christians supporting the destruction of the natural world if it can make someone a buck, on the grounds that God gave it to us to do whatever we want with it.

LOL!

Nothing like a 'personal attack' (it wasn't directed at one person, but rather a whole group of people) when you've been out-rationalized.

At least you got through a large number of posts before engaging in it.

158 posted on 10/29/2006 2:34:28 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
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To: Old_Mil
Congratualations - you may be the first person in human history to try and open your mouth to make the argument that religious affiliation is genetic.

I wouldn't think someone would ever actually say anything as stupid in public as this post... That Hitler was baptised as a Catholic is a fact. That such is sufficient under the Church's rules to make one a Catholic is also a fact. That Catholics are Christians is also a fact (except to certain brainless idiots.) Nothing genetic in any of that.

159 posted on 10/29/2006 2:35:27 PM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: Jacob Kell

This month's cover issue of Wired, "THE NEW ATHEISM"
Screams: "No Heaven, No Hell, Just Science"
Inside the CRUSADE against religion.

I have a theory about atheists.
They think they are too smart to believe in God.


160 posted on 10/29/2006 2:38:22 PM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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