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MESSAGE FOR STAY AT HOME REPUBLICANS (VANITY)

Posted on 10/28/2006 12:53:49 PM PDT by tomnbeverly

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To: zbigreddogz; Extremely Extreme Extremist
KOLBE DIDN'T RUN FOR RE-ELECTION, HE RETIRED.

You are correct. The hand-picked successor of Jim Kolbe who got all the RNCC support was Steve Huffman. My error there.

And no, I'm merely asking a question, because he is likely to lose, not because he's a Conservative, but because he's a one-issue candidate who didn't have the broad support of most Republicans and Conservatives.

Oh bullcrap. Randy Graf is an experienced legislator with impeccable Republican credentials. He was Republican majority whip in the Arizona House of Representatives and highly respected by his colleagues. He has the endorsement of 26 members of the state legislature, taxpayers groups, the local Border Patrol union, law enforcement associations, the Minutemen and pro-life organizations.

Graf's biggest obstacle to victory in November will not be his Democrat opponent, but the damaged egos of the RINO-coddlers who backed Huffman. Those same people who insist that conservatives should support their RINOs are threatening to take their ball and go home. And to make matters worse, the RNCC -- still stinging from their sound rebuke by conservatives -- encouraged and legitimized this temper tantrum by funding Huffman in the primary.

All that said, with all your insisting that Graf can't cut it, if you ain't another one of those "conservatives can't win, but they must support our RINOs" jackwits, you sure as hell sound like one.

61 posted on 10/28/2006 2:04:27 PM PDT by Prime Choice (True Conservatives don't vote for Liberals just because they have an 'R' by their name.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Of the ten, or so, conservative friends that I have living close by, two (that would be 20 percent) are staying home and they can't be convinced otherwise.

And that's a valid indicator nationally, how?

Stop with the head in the sand mentality.

Who's head is in the sand? I'll be voting. If other conservatives don't, how is that my fault?

62 posted on 10/28/2006 2:04:46 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: theDentist
I'm going to vote all R, but make no mistake, I don't think they deserve my vote this year.

And what are you going to do in 2008 when the Republicans, who already know that they can tilt as far left as the Dhimmicrats without fear of rebuke, demand your support again?

Enough is enough. It's time to evict the RINOs if we're ever going to re-consolidate what makes the Republican Party better than the Dhimmicrats.

63 posted on 10/28/2006 2:06:50 PM PDT by Prime Choice (True Conservatives don't vote for Liberals just because they have an 'R' by their name.)
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To: humblegunner

Actually, his homo marriage thing needed a semicolon; yet I am not one to dither on the details. ;)


64 posted on 10/28/2006 2:07:18 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: tomnbeverly
Must be embarrassing to be a republican candidate and realize the only reason you are getting a vote is because you are viewed with just a bit less contempt than your dem opposition.

I suspect the victory celebrations will be marked with a little less gusto this year. The music not as lively.

Two years left for the party to rise in stature lest spite determine the vote in '08.

65 posted on 10/28/2006 2:07:57 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
So we should just sit back and enjoy getting screwed?

No, you should realize you aren't a dictator.

As long as the Republican in office has no principles and is nearly identical to the Rat on the issues, it's OK because he has the magical R next to him?

With the exception of Lincoln Chafee, there is no federally elected Republican who is nearly identical to the D on the issues.

Riddle me this: Why can't the Republican just act like Republicans?

As defined by who? As defined by you?

Low taxes, limited government, strong defense, traditional values...remember those?

Yep. But do we all agree on exactly what those mean? No. We don't live in a dictatorship. No one person gets to define what 'the' position is on any issue. People from different frames of mind and different experiences might see things somewhat differently on exactly what those mean.

Example: The leading Conservative Think-Tank, The Heritage Foundation, is a big supporter of Romney's Healthcare marketplace bill, while The CATO Institute is not.

I'm not advocating for either position, but I hope that both sides vote for the same candidate come election time. And they will if they have half a brain.

There's no need for any Republican to "move to the middle" or "become an enlightened moderate" or "appeal to independents."

Ah, the eternal unappeasable dream. If we ran Tom Coburn in every race, we'd win every race.

That's interesting till you run into the brick wall of fact. I could site literally hundreds of races that it wasn't true in, but you wouldn't listen. You'll merely toss aside every example of that not working, blaming it on RINO's, but it won't make you right.

Why is that so hard for the GOP to understand? Now you know why they're called the Stupid Party, right?

It's not hard to understand, it's just overly simplistic at best and completely untrue at worst.

66 posted on 10/28/2006 2:08:15 PM PDT by zbigreddogz (`)
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To: rlmorel

If anything, all of these RAT October surprises and all of the "dancing in the end zone" they've been doing has fired everyone I know up to vote, not stay home.


67 posted on 10/28/2006 2:08:16 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad (You cannot protect the peoples' civil liberties if you refuse to protect the people.)
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To: Spirochete

The Democrats are far worse than Republicans, however badly the GOP has behaved lately.


68 posted on 10/28/2006 2:10:33 PM PDT by since 1854
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To: Prime Choice

Nice to see you finally admitted you were wrong.

On the other point, if he's so great, why did 58% of Republicans vote against him? Are 58% RINO's? And if that's the case, how can you call the majority of the party "In Name ONLY" Republicans? As they are the majority, wouldn't they be in a better position to define what Republicans are or aren't?


69 posted on 10/28/2006 2:10:48 PM PDT by zbigreddogz (`)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
Actually, his homo marriage thing needed a semicolon

I draw the line at gastric maladies.

70 posted on 10/28/2006 2:13:56 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: dcwusmc
Sorry, stud, but until or unless you can show me a POSITIVE reason for voting for a Rat-Lite, it ain't gonna happen.

You just show how intentionally FREAKING BLIND you make yourself or know the truth but are just a flat out liar, so you can throw your pathetic little tantrum.

Judges Roberts and Alito are just two HUGE, POSITIVE things but people like you will continue to keep your heads in the dirt, spew your ridiculous, stupid rants such as the one above. GOOD RIDDANCE! Who needs perpetual whiners?!

71 posted on 10/28/2006 2:15:20 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: MaineVoter2002
There are 2 types of cut and run republican in internet conservative forums.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

The smarmy, know-it-all elitism oozing from the party apparatus and its worshippers.

Conservatives aren't allowed to exhibit emotion when their leaders don't at least adhere to 80% of conservatism? I'm not asking for 100% Republicans, I mean, all Republicans essentially support the UN and the Education Department, and conservatives still vote them in, right? But there hasn't even been a concerted effort to limit the size of gov't anywhere. What happenend to Bush's excellent "Ownership Society" plans? Where'd that go?

72 posted on 10/28/2006 2:15:48 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
In 2008 when the Republicans do this again when they haven't accomplished anything what are you going to do? If not now, when?

Well, let us hope that Congressional Republicans, assuming they retain control, do not wish to go through this stuff again. However, if they continue on the same path, the ones to blame are those who vote in the individual primaries.

If Republicans hold power and they go back to their 'old' ways, then we must withhold money from the RNC, the various PACS, and individual politicians. We must also vigorously support true conservatives in the primaries.

I will say this: If the Republicans lose their hold on Congress, and the Dims do what most of us know they are going to do, I do NOT want to hear any complaining or bitching from those that either did not vote, or voted third party (protest vote ala Perot which, by the way, got Klinton elected with 44% of the vote).

73 posted on 10/28/2006 2:17:15 PM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: tomnbeverly

Don't waste any energy trying to convince a very, very small percentage of brain-dead, the importance of helping elect traitors and metally deranged run this great country.


74 posted on 10/28/2006 2:18:00 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4GqdfRJf5E


75 posted on 10/28/2006 2:18:27 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (If you dont vote on election day, then who are you electing?)
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To: Uncle Vlad

LOL...Agreed. It is likely they will find themselves after the fact saying..."Rove did this...SOMEHOW!"


76 posted on 10/28/2006 2:24:49 PM PDT by rlmorel (The US Media...Where you get Million Dollar Words From people with a Ten Cent Fart for a brain.)
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To: tomnbeverly
Gee, can I go to the polls and just not vote for RINOs? Please tell me what to do. You clearly know better than I do how I should vote. /sarcasm

Republicans are running the same risk the Dems have run for so long: Treating their own constituencies like idiots. In the Republicans' case, we are not idiots. We know the outcome of Dem control of Congress. We also know that if we continue to rubber stamp all GOP candidates we will get more of the likes of Chaffee and Shays.

Anyone who is not discriminating in how they cast their votes is an idiot.

77 posted on 10/28/2006 2:30:32 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: 100-Fold_Return
Quit watching the liebral shills and hacks on TV and get down on your knees--for the only Vote that really counts.

That'd be the Lewinski vote, right? For when they've got you so scared you've got no pride left?

78 posted on 10/28/2006 2:53:54 PM PDT by Grut
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To: jaycee

I detect some sarcasm in your note. I try not to use that gif too often. Only when really necessary. LOL


79 posted on 10/28/2006 2:55:46 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Eastbound
Must be embarrassing to be a republican candidate and realize the only reason you are getting a vote is because you are viewed with just a bit less contempt than your dem opposition.

Nah. Water off a duck's back. A one-seat majority in the House will be 'a mandate' to go on as they have been. You have to realize that we're dealing here with people in whom pride has been entirely replaced by self-importance.

80 posted on 10/28/2006 3:09:29 PM PDT by Grut
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