Pics of shootings and violence today in leftist-controlled Oaxaca (Photo Essay)

El Universal ( Mexico City ) ^ | October 27, 2006 | El Universal Staff Photos

[StJacques]

These are all from the homepage of the Mexico City newspaper El Universal's web site, I am including translations of the captions provided:

Unknown subjects burn a van of the PRI [Institutional Revolutionary Party], where a shootout supposedly
began in the municipality of Santa Lucia del Camino, Oaxaca

Unknown men shoot at APPO members and reporters in Santa Lucia del Camino, Oaxaca;
a foreign cameraman dies

Unknown men shoot at journalists and members of APPO in the municipality of Santa Lucia;
up to now they report 12 injured and the death of a foreign cameraman

A cameraman, who looks foreign, died as a result of a bullet wound which he received
during one of the shoot-outs recorded in the municipality of Santa Lucia, Oaxaca
My Note: Notice Bandana-Covered APPO Leftists Nearby

A foreign cameraman died today during a shoot-out in the municipality of Santa Lucia
against members of APPO and reporters

[SwinneySwitch]

Oaxaca Photos Ping!

[Enterprise]

I have to agree that it's anarchy if the police are confined to their barracks and the leftists roam at will shutting down commerce. My guess about FOX is that he doesn't want to deal with this and hopes the lid will stay on until he leaves office.

[AmericanInTokyo]

And when the work dries up?

(since they are undereducated and already committing a crime by their presence in the USA)?

[tom paine 2]

Guns are illegal in Mexico (chuckle)

[texastoo]

"Thank you for posting. This is getting absolutely no coverage here in the US.

Who are the guys in the red shirts? Or was it just a random fashion choice?

Also, where's the army and the government of Mexico?"


Why should the American press cover this? Where has V. Fox and Calderone been on this? The last I heard those 2 "conservatives" were still whinning about the fence. This is V. Fox's baby all the way. He should have stopped this way back in May or June. All they had to do was sit down and negociate a teachers contract. The last I heard V. Fox will wait til December before he does something. V. Fox has let some of the worst communists infiltrate a poor class of Mexicans. The commies wear red.

You can bet Ambassador Tony Garza knows that this was the Mexican police as he would have never made the statement inferring otherwise.



Try this site:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003327488_oaxaca28.html

excderpt....

Bradley Roland Will, 36, of New York, was shot in the abdomen and died at a Red Cross hospital, police, witnesses and friends said. Will worked for Indymedia.org, an independent Web-based media organization and also sold video footage on a freelance basis, said friends and Indymedia colleague Hinrich Schuleze.

U.S. Ambassador to Mexico Tony Garza said the armed group may have been police.

"It appears that Mr. Will was killed during a shootout between what may have been local police" and protesters, Garza said in a written statement.

Protesters accused the governor of sending the armed men against them.

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[livius]

The press should cover it for the simple fact that Mexico is a bordering country and any unrest of this magnitude in Mexico is at least as important as riots in, say, Africa.

I asked about the people in red because at first, I assumed naturally that they were communists; however, the reports made it seem as if the people firing were opposed to the communists, so I wasn't sure who the "men in red" were. Furthermore, they appear to be in charge; in the back of one photo, you will see one of them, better dressed than the mob, watching the attacks.

The police are supposedly confined to their barracks, which I really don't understand. What is the purpose of a police force except to keep order? Partly, of course, it is because the police force there is seen as an arm of the PRI (Socialist party, basically) which is oddly enough the one being confronted by the even more leftist party. But I think it is also cowardice on the part of the governing authorities at all levels, who are so afraid of being depicted as authoritarian that they won't use the police or the army to put down what is essentially an attempt to intimidate the people and seize power in one of their states.

I think Fox - who is not PRI, but has been a disappointment on many levels, and not just to the US - wants to pass this along to his successor. But I can't believe Mexico can take another full month of this.

[DaoPian]

The links are rolling in....

Oaxaca - Watch

[livius]

Having read more about it, that's my feeling, too. Didn't one of these indymedia types buy the farm in Iraq or the Palestinian territory a couple of years ago while trying to create propanda for the enemy? I don't remember which country it was or the details.

Oddly enough, these leftist fake-journalists usually get shot by the very people whose side they are on. But I guess that's what they get being a dumb lefty - and dumb they are.

[texastoo]

I have to believe Tony Garza. He knows what is going on in Oaxaca. There is no doubt that the shooters were probably the Mexican police. Garza has warned Americans many times about going to Mexico. Like I said V. Fox should have taken care of this last spring.

The leftest PRI party and the leftest PAN party are converging. Let me assure you that all the political parties are way left in Mexico and this includes the PRD party.

The red shirts are anarchists. This is not a Mexican revolution.

[livius]

Garza is very in with the Fox government. For some reason, the Fox government is very opposed to the police in Oaxaca, probably because it perceives them as controlled by the PRI, which is no doubt true. It was for this reason that the police were confined to their barracks when this all began (although it is certainly possible that some have slipped out).

As for the red shirts, if they are on the side opposed to the PRD, they couldn't be anarchists. I guess the whole problem lies in figuring out which side appears in the photographs, since it's not entirely clear who was doing what.

It's not a revolution, but if an entire Mexican state is taken over by a force hostile to the government and the US and friendly to Chavez, it should certainly be news. I mean, if even tiny Rhode Island got taken over by the Communists (or, more likely, the Mafia) here, it would be not be a good sign, right?

[texastoo]

I have watched Tony Garza, the United States Ambassador to Mexico, for many years warn Americans about going to Mexico. I have read articles and have heard on radio how furious V. Fox has been at Tony Garza and the announcements he has made regarding Americans visiting Mexico. Tony Garza is married to a very wealthy Mexican. They know what goes on in Mexico as this is Garza's job to warm amd protect Americans.

I believe Ambassador Garza's statement about the police. He has no reason to lie. He has been right on the money for years.

"police were confined to their barracks when this all began (although it is certainly possible that some have slipped out). " Give me a break. LOLOLOL

"As for the red shirts, if they are on the side opposed to the PRD, they couldn't be anarchists. I guess the whole problem lies in figuring out which side appears in the photographs, since it's not entirely clear who was doing what."

Try this website if you don't think anarchists could be involved. Scroll down and read the article by George Salzman.

http://nefac.net/node/2120

When you finish this website then go to this site.

http://site.www.umb.edu/faculty/salzman_g/

Notice what country this website is from and what university.

[Gritty]

I mean, if even tiny Rhode Island got taken over by the Communists (or, more likely, the Mafia) here, it would be not be a good sign, right?

...right!...

You mean it already hasn't been!!??

[livius]

Sometimes it's hard to tell...

[livius]

I just read in the Spanish press that Fox has finally sent federal forces to Oaxaca. They should be arriving this afternoon (Saturday), although it's not clear whether they're military or the Federal Police.

[Liberty Valance]

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[texastoo]

I just read in the Spanish press that Fox has finally sent federal forces to Oaxaca. They should be arriving this afternoon (Saturday), although it's not clear whether they're military or the Federal Police.

It is about time. Fox has been pathetic. I still can't understand why he didn't put a stop to this last spring and not let it get out of control.

[Kitten Festival]

He's Fox. You think he has anything under control? He doesn't even control his northern border. Only his southern border gets any attention, all that danger from Guatemalans.

[Kitten Festival]

The red is the color of the PRI party in Mexico, the old party that ruled and ruined Mexico for 70 years. They are socialists, but not really ideologues - you occasionally find good people among them. They're just a great big amorphous party and down in Oaxaca, they were apparently defending their privileges against people to the farther left of them, like the Indymedia guy. Neither the PRI, nor the PRD nor the Zapatistas they were fighting are connected with the current party, PAN that is in power. The people they were fighting were all from the left and the far left. It was dinosaur left versus chavista left in this battle, left on left violence.

Which is probably why the msm is not interested in covering this.

[isthisnickcool]

THIS....IS....COMING....TO....THE....UNITED....STATES....OF....AMERICA

It's already here. LaRaza, MS-13, etc.

The Tex-Mex border has been a war zone for several years. The American public has no idea what has been going on.

[Safetgiver]

....waiting to work......At what?