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Airbus announces unmanned A-400
Alt.Disasters.Aviation ^ | Fri, Oct 27 2006 | Vote4Me

Posted on 10/27/2006 2:46:42 PM PDT by Hal1950

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To: Zeppelin

I wouldn't mind flying in their plane, it's when the thing decides to land somewhere other than an aiport that I would find objectionable.


21 posted on 10/27/2006 3:32:07 PM PDT by sig226 (There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who do not.)
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To: CPOSharky

Has there been a crash caused by a computer crash yet?


22 posted on 10/27/2006 3:32:32 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: Hal1950

Satire today, reality tomorrow.


23 posted on 10/27/2006 3:36:38 PM PDT by vox humana
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To: Leisler

Actually, I could see it for a cargo plane like FedEx or something.


24 posted on 10/27/2006 3:36:57 PM PDT by SixStringSlinger
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To: Hal1950

Why not? Airbus management seems to have been the pioneering unit on this. Nobody can convince me actual humans have been making some of their management decisions.


25 posted on 10/27/2006 3:38:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

We know.
But it spawns much fun!


26 posted on 10/27/2006 3:48:36 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Hal1950

If they don't feel safe enough to fly it... why would I feel safe enough to be carried by it??


27 posted on 10/27/2006 3:53:30 PM PDT by dcrider182 (Col. Dean R. Hiatt.. WWII Hero. LC.Cpl. Brad Shuder. 9-11 Hero.. you are both loved and missed)
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To: Hal1950

"Ladies and gentleman, welcome aboard the first totally unmanned commercial flight. There is no flight crew; instead,
the entire flight is controlled by a sophisticated computer.
This system has been thoroughly tested, so relax and enjoy the
flight with the certainty that nothing can go wrong....
go wrong...go wrong...go wrong...."


28 posted on 10/27/2006 3:56:09 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Hal1950
Image hosted by Photobucket.com tooo funny... 8^)

i surprised the airBUST planes don't have EjectionSeats for the pilots...

the only thing worse than getting on an a-380, would be getting on an a-380 with E-Seats for the pilots so they could leave when things start to get sporty like.

29 posted on 10/27/2006 4:00:28 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Leisler
Has there been a crash caused by a computer crash yet?

I don't know about a computer crash, but didn't an Airbust plane crash because the pilot selected "landing" mode, tried to go around and the computer wouldn't let him?

30 posted on 10/27/2006 4:02:47 PM PDT by CPOSharky (Demonrats vote on Nov. 8th. Pass it on.)
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To: sig226

Don't worry. They thought of everything. Its designed so there will always be enough fuel to get you to the crash site.


31 posted on 10/27/2006 4:19:42 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Hal1950

Open the pod bays doors Hal...


32 posted on 10/27/2006 4:24:19 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Stand Back! I have an oscilloscope, and I know how to use it.)
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To: CPOSharky

I don't know about a computer crash, but didn't an Airbust plane crash because the pilot selected "landing" mode, tried to go around and the computer wouldn't let him?

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Almost. The first officer mucked up the approach and correctly hit the go-around button. The captain decided to take control and override the computer in an attempt to land in Osaka. The airplane zoomed straight up and then fell straight down.


33 posted on 10/27/2006 4:42:52 PM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: aviator

Nope, wrong one, and that was the second one.

The first one was the Airbus 320's premiere flight at the Habsheim, France airshow where the computer refused to accept any inputs on a low level pass and flew straight into the nearby forest. From http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/boe202.shtml:

"Lauber said the pilots were supposed to fly by with the gear down at about 100 feet. Instead, they came in at less than 30 feet off the ground. When the plane gets below 50 feet, the computer assumes the pilots are trying to land, Lauber said."

Thing is, which an Airbus will allow you to break the hard limits by turning off "normal flight law", you may not have time to turn it off because you're busy trying to save the plane. Case in point was the 1985 China Air 747 incident where the plane was tumbling in the sky and the pilots pulled 4G+ maneuvers to get the plane back under control. You'd be a bit too busy to turn off the normal flight law system... And, not incidentally, I'm not sure the A340 competitor for the older 747 *can* pull that amount of Gs in any flight law mode.

If it's not Boeing, *I* am not going.


34 posted on 10/27/2006 7:10:40 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
Don't worry. They thought of everything. Its designed so there will always be enough fuel to get you to the crash site.

And you'll beat the paramedics by a half hour!

35 posted on 10/27/2006 9:43:44 PM PDT by Zeppelin (You've been Zarqed !)
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To: aviator
FYI: Links to the incident report:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Airlines_Flight_006

http://www.rvs.uni-bielefeld.de/publications/Incidents/DOCS/ComAndRep/ChinaAir/AAR8603.html

The plane made it home with significant portions of its tail missing, and the wings were permanently bent upwards 2".

Interestingly, that plane is *still* in service; happily flying around the world.

36 posted on 10/28/2006 9:30:58 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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