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KILL MUQTADA NOW (Ralph Peters)
The New York Post ^ | October 26, 2006 | Ralph Peters

Posted on 10/26/2006 5:14:16 AM PDT by beckaz

IT WAS wrenching to listen to President Bush's news conference yesterday. He's struggling to do the right thing. But he's getting terrible advice.

He's still counting on a political solution in Iraq. Ain't going to happen. And you can take that to the blood bank.

Our famously loyal president has one grave flaw: He's a poor judge of character. He trusts the wrong people. Then he sticks by them.

Bush met Russia's Vladimir Putin, "looked into his soul" - and failed to recognize that the guy is an unreformed secret policeman. He stubbornly defends Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, the Pentagon's architect of failure. Now he's standing up for Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki - a man who has decided to back our enemies.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; pentagonsnewmap; sadr; thegap; thomasbarnett; wot
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Maliki is already a failure, could'nt agree more. Mookie should have been offed in 2003.

Lastly, the most baffling thing to me: our side never points out that the SOB could not even be in Iraq today, he was hiding in Iran, before our intervention over there.

1 posted on 10/26/2006 5:14:18 AM PDT by beckaz
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To: beckaz
He stubbornly defends Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, the Pentagon's architect of failure.

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No thanks.

2 posted on 10/26/2006 5:17:27 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: beckaz

Ah what ever happened thsoe bucolic days of WWII when we went in and softened up the populace with carpet bombing of cities with incendiary, turning those cities into firestorms of fear for the populace that remained alive....and in the end the survivors, the homeless refugees, were grateful to have us set them back up in a clean safe democracy.

WE ARE MUCH TOO EASY ON THESE PEOPLE.


3 posted on 10/26/2006 5:23:12 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: PGalt

There's a lot of truth in this article.

The Moqtada is Iran's Man in Baghdad. He has to go, then we have to Fight.

Be Seeing You,

Chris


4 posted on 10/26/2006 5:23:21 AM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: PGalt

I'm hoping Bush ditches Rumsfeld after the election. I can't see where he's done anything worthwhile in 6 years at the Pentagon.


5 posted on 10/26/2006 5:24:26 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: beckaz
From the article:

"....Friendly persuasion and billions of dollars haven't done the job. Give therapeutic violence a chance....."

What a statement. And how cutting to the bone true.

6 posted on 10/26/2006 5:26:25 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Vaquero
Aaaah! The good old days. ;)
7 posted on 10/26/2006 5:26:47 AM PDT by beckaz (Deport, deport. deport.)
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US/Brit Forces should have pruned al-Sadr when they had the chance when al-Sadr was surrounded at that mosque in 2004.

Now, he continues to be a thorn.

He must be dealt with. He is funded by Tehran.

Peters is correct -- you can't have a politicial/diplomatic solution until you've won the war.


8 posted on 10/26/2006 5:27:01 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: beckaz
Another great article by Ralph Peters. Read the whole thing, if you haven't already. Here are a few highlights.

IT WAS wrenching to listen to President Bush's news conference yesterday. He's struggling to do the right thing. But he's getting terrible advice. He's still counting on a political solution in Iraq. Ain't going to happen. And you can take that to the blood bank. Our famously loyal president has one grave flaw: He's a poor judge of character. He trusts the wrong people. Then he sticks by them.

Harsh, but fair. President Bush likes to be a nice guy, but sometimes he's too nice to get the job done. President Lincoln was also a man of great character, but he had no qualms about firing his top people until he got the results he wanted.

Next, Peters talks about the release of al-Sadr's top assassin, facilitated by the Iraqi government.

As a former intelligence officer, that told me two things: First, Iraq's prime minister is betting on Muqtada to prevail, not us. Second, Muqtada, not the Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, is now the most powerful man in Iraq.

At his news conference, Bush was asked about another statement made by Maliki just hours before. Our troops had conducted a raid in Sadr City, Muqtada's Baghdad stronghold. The Iraqi PM quickly declared that "this will not happen again." He was signaling his allegiance to Muqtada. Publicly.

Oh, Maliki realizes his government wouldn't last a week if our troops withdrew. He doesn't want us to leave yet. But he's looking ahead.

This is exactly the point. Everyone can see the handwriting on the wall. America may be fantastically powerful, but we're deeply unreliable. Al-Sadr may not be nearly as strong, but he's as dependable as the sunrise. He will be here tomorrow, and the day after that, and the day after that.

If we fail to kill him, Al-Sadr will be the future of Iraq. We'll be as tired of looking at him in 2050 as we are looking at Fidel Castro now. He'll be every ounce the thorn in our side as Castro or Saddam was. All he has to do is wait.

And after we've killed Muqtada and destroyed his Mahdi Army, we need to go after the Sunni insurgents. If we can't leave a democracy behind, we should at least leave the corpses of our enemies.

The holier-than-thou response to this proposal is predictable: "We can't kill our way out of this situation!" Well, boo-hoo. Friendly persuasion and billions of dollars haven't done the job. Give therapeutic violence a chance.

I don't really think this point requires any elaboration. I fear it may be too late in the game to pull the gloves off. We're already pretty gunshy of bad PR. In a perfect world, this makes sense. In the politically weak kneed 2006 we find ourselves in, seeing this option is unlikely, at best.

9 posted on 10/26/2006 5:30:56 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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There has been a minimalist strategy from the beginning which is the main problem.The Iraq military is forced to do most of the dirty work when possible as they should. I wish the Bush admin would stop addressing it as the Iraq war- The Iraq war already came and went and we won. This is the aftermath and now the Iraqis that hate each other are killing each other. How is that our responsibilty and if it was how can you stop people from hating each other?
10 posted on 10/26/2006 5:33:02 AM PDT by alienken (Bumper sticker idea- We have God in heaven & a Texan in the whitehouse,LIFE IS GOOD!!)
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To: beckaz
Two slogans out of that piece:

"Give violence a chance!"

"Get Tough or Get Out!"

11 posted on 10/26/2006 5:33:12 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet
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To: Steel Wolf

Good comments.


12 posted on 10/26/2006 5:35:56 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Dancing through life like a street mime with tourettes syndrome.)
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To: beckaz

We should have taken out al Sadr during the 2003 Fallujah fracas. Why we let him live to rabble-rouse and foment more fanatical killing I don't understand. But it's not too late to correct the mistake! He's just begging for a bullet in the head.


13 posted on 10/26/2006 5:36:33 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: PGalt

Ralph Peters seems to have a personal animus against Don Rumsfeld - it's found throughout his books and in his news pieces.


14 posted on 10/26/2006 5:37:22 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Victor
Give therapeutic violence a chance.....

That makes a great tagline too!

15 posted on 10/26/2006 5:39:25 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
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To: saganite
I'm hoping Bush ditches Rumsfeld after the election. I can't see where he's done anything worthwhile in 6 years at the Pentagon.

I agree, but don't hold your breath. President Bush is not only loyal to his guys, but he's sensitive to what the press would say. Many people who know more about politics than military affairs, like may FReepers, see criticism of SecDef Rumsfeld as criticism of the President, and hence not to be taken seriously. In fact, they belive that Rumsfeld leaving would be a serious political blow to the Republicans.

In any other scenario, where military victories was more important than political ones, SecDef Rumsfeld would have long since been replaced. As I mentioned earlier, President Lincoln would have replaced him years ago. For political and personal reasons, Rummy's got his job as long as President Bush has his.

16 posted on 10/26/2006 5:40:34 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: Vaquero

"Ah what ever happened thsoe bucolic days of WWII....."

Imagine CNN covering Dresden. That's what happened. Or for that matter, Reuters covering Beirut this past summer?


17 posted on 10/26/2006 5:40:43 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Obama in 08)
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To: Steel Wolf
And after we've killed Muqtada and destroyed his Mahdi Army, we need to go after the Sunni insurgents. If we can't leave a democracy behind, we should at least leave the corpses of our enemies.

Great piece by Peters..... Hope our strategists are listening.

18 posted on 10/26/2006 5:41:21 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
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To: Rummyfan
Ralph Peters seems to have a personal animus against Don Rumsfeld - it's found throughout his books and in his news pieces.

He clearly does. But Peters is absolutely right about the need to get rid of fat-boy al-Sadr. The sooner and the less obviously the better. As I said before, grab him and make him disappear. No body, no martyr, just vanished.

19 posted on 10/26/2006 5:43:51 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: section9

I don't disagree with you. Moqtada will be dead. Iraq will stand.


20 posted on 10/26/2006 5:44:46 AM PDT by PGalt
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