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Doomsday Scenario: 'America Alone' [Paul Gigot interview with Mark Steyn]
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Posted on 10/24/2006 4:34:24 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Doomsday Scenario: 'America Alone'

Monday , October 23, 2006

This is a partial transcript from "The Journal Editorial Report," October 21, 2006, that has been edited for clarity.

PAUL GIGOT, FOX HOST: "America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It" forecasts a dark future in which the nations of Old Europe fall to Islam fundamentalism. And the United States remains the last Western democracy.

Earlier, I spoke to the author, columnist Mark Steyn.

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GIGOT: In your book, you write that much of what we loosely call the "Western World will not survive the 21st Century. And much of it will effectively disappear within our lifetimes, including many, if not most, European countries", end quote. That sounds like a doomsday scenario.

MARK STEYN, COLUMNIST AND AUTHOR OF "AMERICA ALONE": It is. I tried to be cheerful. But it is hard to be cheerful about apocalyptic-type stuff. And this is what it is.

Basically, 17 European countries have what demographers call lowest-load fertility, from which no society ever recovered. That means they are basically not having enough babies.

And the way Europe is set up, they have these unsustainable social programs and welfare. And they imported the babies that they didn't have. They imported them essentially from the North Africa and the Middle East.

So we're seeing one of the fastest population transformations in history, whereby an aging ethnic European population is being replaced by a Muslim population. And the Muslims understand that, in fact, Europe, as they see it, is the colony now.

GIGOT: Is there any way that Europe can avoid being Islamacized in this way?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: america; americaalone; demographics; doomsdayscenario; endoftheworld; foxnews; freedom; islam; marksteyn; populationbust; sharia; steyn; trop; westerneurope; westernworld
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1 posted on 10/24/2006 4:34:26 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

I think his pessimism for Europe is well founded, but I think Steyn overlooks America's own immigration problems mostly because the majority of the influx is not Muslim.


2 posted on 10/24/2006 4:37:57 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Aetius

ping


4 posted on 10/24/2006 4:38:51 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Aetius
I dont worry too much about Mexican or Spanish speaking immigrants, they arent trying to kill us. At worst if they take over we learn a new language and have to start living in a third world country. The islamic immigrants are different. They mean to subjugate us and dont mind killing to do it.
5 posted on 10/24/2006 4:45:50 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: sgtbono2002

Yes, Muslims are a diffrrent breed of cat altogether. A whole different animal. The seem to love to kill each other. That's fine as long as we don't get involved.

Thank goodness George W. has dropped all that "stay the course" stuff.


6 posted on 10/24/2006 4:49:08 PM PDT by floridareader1
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To: Aetius
I think his pessimism for Europe is well founded, but I think Steyn overlooks America's own immigration problems mostly because the majority of the influx is not Muslim.

The difference is that Europe's immigrant problem is to the point that it is growing from within Europe. The millions in the USA are hardly a blip on the societal radar. In the USA it is not a multi-generational problem as of yet. The children of immigrants in the USA aspire to be asimilated to a larger degree than in Europe.

7 posted on 10/24/2006 4:49:28 PM PDT by Mike Darancette ( Europe will either become Christian again or become Muslim. Not the "culture of nothing".)
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To: sgtbono2002
According to the CIA world factbook, Mexico:

Nominally Roman Catholic 89%, Protestant 6%, other 5%.

8 posted on 10/24/2006 4:50:59 PM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: Mike Darancette
Assimilation is the key.
9 posted on 10/24/2006 4:51:11 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Aetius
I think his pessimism for Europe is well founded, but I think Steyn overlooks America's own immigration problems mostly because the majority of the influx is not Muslim.

Maybe he just didn't get the chance to discuss it in this case.

I think the idea of immigration as a problem (especially Mexican immigration, legal or otherwise) is overblown. Everyone in the world could immigrate to the United States and it would only better us - as long as they assimilate. And that's the key. America has done a much better job at assimilating its immigrants than Europe has. We have to fight the idiocy that is "multiculturalism". It's as dangerous and destructive an idea as Communism was. Perhaps even more so because the justification for "multiculturalism" seems reasonable to many people. But, we have to fight it. We have our own unique culture and we must demand that those who wish to be in Rome do as the Romans do.
10 posted on 10/24/2006 4:52:46 PM PDT by Jaysun (Idiot Muslims. They're just dying to have sex orgies.)
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To: HitmanLV

Mark Steyn ping


11 posted on 10/24/2006 4:52:52 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: sgtbono2002
They mean to do the same to us as the mohameddans do. They are being taught we took their continent from them. They are just as steeped in hatred of the gringo as the muslim is of the crusader.

Dead is dead, it doesn't matter who did what and how. Right now, western civilization will end with but a whimper.
12 posted on 10/24/2006 4:53:57 PM PDT by Hawk1976
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To: sgtbono2002

You should worry about the creation of a permanent underclass hailing from Mexico. Without assimilation - including renunciation of irridentist claims to the southwestern US, Mexican immigration is a disaster for us and for Mexico.


13 posted on 10/24/2006 4:54:32 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: sgtbono2002

I must agree with you.


14 posted on 10/24/2006 4:55:22 PM PDT by ladyinred (RIP my precious Lamb Chop)
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To: Sub-Driver

He was on the Bill Bennett show this morning. Sounds likes a good book.


15 posted on 10/24/2006 4:56:10 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (Go Bucks.....beat Minnesota!!!!!)
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To: RKV

You have a point of course, when the slavs were cut loose after the Civil War they were never assimilated, and now 200 years later many of them still arent.


16 posted on 10/24/2006 5:03:46 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: beaversmom

140 Proof STEYNAHOL!!!


17 posted on 10/24/2006 5:05:45 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: sgtbono2002

"You have a point of course, when the slavs were cut loose after the Civil War they were never assimilated, and now 200 years later many of them still arent.

That is probably because they are easily recognizable. If they looked the same or similar to everyone else, they would be long since assimilated.


18 posted on 10/24/2006 5:07:49 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Sub-Driver

I just do not think that Europe will go muslim. As to why it stops and reverses, I think the EU is due for a Great Awakening of their own, which might have a big effect on the pregnancy rate.

They may also begin a progrom of muslims. It is not as if they haven't done it before and it is a political play that seems to come easy to them.


19 posted on 10/24/2006 5:08:01 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (This space for hire...)
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To: Sub-Driver

The world had their Butts kicked by 1941.Germany and Japan
Owned it.Sounds like the same thing to me.We Will Get By .
Make Do With What We Have.I don't see a problem.
Throw Out The UN Now !


20 posted on 10/24/2006 5:08:41 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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