Posted on 10/24/2006 3:28:21 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
RUSH: One of the big issues in the Missouri Senate race -- as you know, we touched on it yesterday -- is the Michael J. Fox commercial which is entirely misleading and which is in itself an attack ad, and it is filled with disinformation about embryonic stem cell research and how Jim Talent wants to criminalize it. Embryonic stem cell research -- and, by the way, Fox is doing similar commercials in Maryland now for Ben Cardin against Michael Steele. But embryonic stem cell research is currently legal and completely unrestricted in both Maryland and Missouri and in the vast majority of other states. It's largely personal and institutional ethics that keep scientists from cloning research. ![]() He's from Canada. He was active in the Kerry campaign in 2004 and he's entered the political arena again with this series of commercials for Ben Cardin in Maryland and Claire McCaskill in Missouri. One of the tactics the Democrats have -- and they've used this consistently. They bring forth people who they think are victims for the purposes of exploiting them, and when you bring forth -- for example, if you're talking about embryonic stem cell research, and you want to convey the notion that the Republicans are opposed to it, and in effect they're for people having Parkinson's Disease. Make no mistake that's what the intent is. Then you bring forth a person who's suffering the disease, and you illustrate the disease and the ravages and the suffering on TV to create sympathy and infallibility, because you're not supposed to be able to attack somebody or criticize somebody in any way or in any regard if they suffer from the disease. It's considered cold-hearted and cruel. What's happening here is that Michael Fox has entered the political arena with his attack, which includes false information about Senator Talent and Michael Steele in Maryland. That's fair game, and I am not going to follow the script that says we're not allowed to comment on the things said by participants, "victims," what have you, that the Democrats put forth as infallible in the middle of a political campaign. I would argue that Mr. Fox is damaging what has traditionally been a bipartisan effort at addressing and curing illnesses, and that is the primary point here. Democrats are politicizing diseases and illnesses. The Breck Girl, John Edwards, promising, if John Kerry is elected, that Christopher Reeve and others with spinal paralysis would walk, when there's no such is evidence that any research into embryonic stem cells will create any immediate cure toward anything. It is irresponsible to mislead victims of people suffering from these horrible diseases in such a fashion. But that's exactly what has happened. |
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That's what the Democrats are doing, politicizing diseases and illnesses, damaging what has traditionally been a bipartisan effort at addressing and curing illnesses, and the same time they claim if you don't embrace their political and cultural agenda, then you're for Parkinson's disease, and you are for spinal paralysis. It's no different than the way they do it in the environmental movement. They talk about dirty water and dirty air, and if you oppose the environmentalists, why, you must be for dirty water and dirty air! You don't want clean water and clean air, and this is a script that they have written for years. Senate Democrats used to parade victims of various diseases or social concerns or poverty up before congressional committees and let them testify, and they were infallible. You couldn't criticize them. ![]() BREAK TRANSCRIPT RUSH: Let me explain to you, ladies and gentlemen, what's going on in my home state that has made this whole stem cell debate so controversial there, and it is typical of the Democrats in this country and the left who can only succeed by misleading. Here's the history in Missouri. For four years, legislators in Missouri have tried to pass a simple ban on human cloning, something that neighboring states to Missouri have done. It's a one-page piece of legislation, a one-page bill. It has never passed. It says that "somatic cell nuclear transfer," that's cloning, "will be a crime in Missouri. Somatic cell nuclear transfer is the scientific term for cloning, the same method used to clone Dolly the sheep. "The other side makes hysterical claims that this bill would criminalize embryonic stem cell research and put patients in jail, and both claims are utterly false. Today in Missouri, there is a constitutional amendment called Amendment 2, and it calls itself the 'Stem Cell Research and Cures Initiative.' McCaskill favors it. Senator Talent opposes it. Amendment 2 is misleading in that it appears to put stem cell research in the Constitution and to ban human cloning, but the fine print creates a right to do somatic cell nuclear transfer, cloning, which is the scientific term for cloning, the same method used to clone Dolly the sheep." Now, The Amendment 2 proponents are using Michael J. Fox and trotting out other people with sick relatives to try to convince Missourians that there will be no cures for their diseases without Amendment 2, which is a cloning amendment that has nothing to do with stem cell research. |
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RUSH: All right, people are asking for the cite, that's c-i-t-e. This would be Michael J. Fox, an excerpt from his book "Lucky Man" June 1, 2002. Here is what he writes regarding his appearance before a Senate appropriations subcommittee hearing in Washington on September 28th, 1999: "I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease and the urgency we as a community were feeling be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling," as it was for me when I saw the commercial he was running in Missouri, because I had never seen him that way before, ever, and I got numerous e-mails from people saying he had said that he does this: goes off the medication to illustrate the ravages of the disease to people and so it's in his own book, that he admits doing this. ![]() "The truth the whole truth must be told. Those politicians who, for political gain, have run these ads in which the truth is distorted and people are misled deserve the most severe of reprimands. Win or lose, they have brought upon themselves disgrace." That, ladies and gentlemen, is my whole point: "that Mr. Fox is a victim is not a license for him to mislead or manipulate the public. The truth -- the whole truth -- must be told. Those politicians who for political gain have run these ads in which the truth is distorted and people are misled deserve the most severe of reprimands. Win or lose, they have brought upon themselves disgrace." That, ladies and gentlemen, is my whole point. "Mr. Fox is a victim is not a license for him to mislead or manipulate the public. The truth -- the whole truth -- must be told. Those politicians who for political gain have run these ads in which the truth is distorted and people are misled deserve the most severe of reprimands. Win or lose, they have brought upon themselves disgrace." That is happening to Claire McCaskill in Missouri today. Ben Cardin in Maryland are both disgracing themselves by exploiting the suffering of this disease in the effort to politicize it and to make it appear to voters in their states, Missouri and Maryland, that voters for -- well, let's put it this way: Making it appear that their opponents, Jim Talent in Missouri and Michael Steele in Maryland, are for Parkinson's disease because they are opposed to research which would cure it. Nothing could be further from the truth. I can't emphasize this enough. Embryonic stem cell research in Missouri is legal, and it is ongoing, and nobody wants to criminalize it. To the phones we go. This is Carol is it San Diego. You're up first today. It's nice to have you with us. CALLER: Hi, Rush. Mega dittos from the left coast. RUSH: Thank you. Nice to have you with us. CALLER: I called because I saw on, I believe it was Fox News. Dr. Rosenfeld has a show. I think it's on Sunday. RUSH: That would be Dr. Isadore Rosenfeld, yes. |
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CALLER: That's him, and he was talking about a cure that they're coming up with for Parkinson's disease that has nothing to do with stem cells, it has to do with a virus that is going to be injected in the brain, a harmless virus. The body produces whatever it is that the Parkinson's disease people are missing. The brain would actually produce this, and the disease would disappear. RUSH: This is the hope. Now, wait, this is the hope. I have a story here that I think is along the lines of what Carol is talking about. It is a UPI story from October the 11th, 13 days ago. "Researches at Rush University Medical Center, Chicago..." and I am not making this up, ladies and gentlemen. "Researchers at Rush University Medical Center in Chicago have said a new Parkinson's disease treatment reduced symptoms by 40 percent. However, researchers said the test only involved 12 patients and may have been affected by the placebo effect, the Chicago Sun-Times reported Wednesday. Further tests of the gene therapy method could solidify the treatment as the first known to slow, halt or possibly reverse damage done by the progressive disease. "Treatments are currently available to relieve symptoms of the illness, but do not stop the disease from progressing. The procedure features two nickel-size holes drilled into the top of a patient's head by a brain surgeon. A virus..." She's right. "A virus containing the desired gene is then inserted into the brain using a needle, and the virus carries the gene to the brain cells. The cells are then instructed by the gene to produce a protein that protects and regenerates cells that make dopamine." Dopamine is what's missing in Parkinson disease sufferers. Now get this. Here's the clincher: "The results were announced at a meeting of the American Neurological Association in Chicago. The Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson's Research has donated $1.9 million for a follow-up study." ![]() CALLER: Primo dittos to you, Rush. RUSH: Thank you, thank you very much. CALLER: I count it a privilege to talk to you. I wanted to call regarding this embryonic stem cell research as a person who has brain cancer, type one diabetes, taking four shots a day, had rheumatoid arthritis, two broken bones in my leg that have not healed in six years -- RUSH: Why, is that because of diabetes? CALLER: Right. Right, and so I'm in a wheelchair. So I have a vested interest in this. But I see this stem cell research as being another gambling issue in Missouri. They say one thing, but they do another. They talk about creating a cure, but what they really want to do is clone, and I am totally against the cloning, and I see Claire McCaskill as just being another deceptive liberal. RUSH: No question about it. There's no other way to categorize this. Again, ladies and gentlemen, not to beat a dead horse, but repetition is the best way people learn. Amendment 2 on the ballot in Missouri, it calls itself the stem cell research and cures initiative. It has nothing to do with that. It is a cloning initiative. The way they're getting away with this is that the scientific name for cloning is "somatic cell nuclear transfer" The syllables all run together for people that pay average amounts of attention. It's a pro-cloning bill, calling itself the stem cell research and cures initiative, and this is what makes this commercial by Michael J. Fox so all the more misleading. He's actually trying to tell voters in this commercial that Claire McCaskill is running that Jim Talent "opposes stem cell research" and Jim Talent wants to "criminalize" it. So does Michael Steele in Maryland. |
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Thus they want people who suffer these diseases to continue to, when in fact the Amendment 2 is not even about stem cell research. It's about cloning! The bill has failed to become law for four years. For four years, legislators have tried to pass a ban on human cloning, and the bill has never passed, and so they're trying to write a cloning amendment to the US Constitution, and they're making everybody think that the cloning amendment is nothing more than stem cell research. They're preying on people's ignorance, they're creating false hope for people who suffer from these diseases that this vote for Amendment 2 will lead to a cure for what they have, no different than what John Edwards was doing in 2004 when promising that if John Kerry is elected we'll do the work necessary and Christopher Reeve will be walking soon. So Jane, how many people do you run into in Missouri that are confused about this? CALLER: Oh, probably every third person. I have a fairly large group of friends, and we have talked about it incessantly, and it's just, you know, everybody is confused and -- RUSH: Well, that's the idea. CALLER: Right, and to me, if liberals are for it, then I'm against it. RUSH: Yeah. (laughing) You and I on the same page. CALLER: Right, and I see this as a whole cottage industry growing up to harvest women's eggs and taking advantage of young women who are in a financial crisis, harvesting their eggs and then at some point they will find out that they've sacrificed their fertility. RUSH: Yeah. There is an upside to this. CALLER: Yeah? RUSH: The only upside is that liberals will be continuing to abort themselves, which will weaken their political strength in the future -- which, you know, makes this a tough call on the political side. Morally and ethically, of course, it's simple. CALLER: Right. RUSH: Jane, great call, I'm glad you took the time to get through. CALLER: Thank you very much sir. RUSH: All the best. BREAK TRANSCRIPT RUSH: Steve in Kankakee, Illinois. You're next, sir. It's great to have you with us. CALLER: Yeah. Rush, mega dittos. RUSH: Thank you. CALLER: Vietnam veteran and retired police officer. I just wanted to call on how the Democrats are -- with their sympathy vote, they recruited Tammy Duckworth to run for Henry Hyde's seat in DuPage County, and I think this is just another example of them going -- ![]() CALLER: Well, Tammy Duckworth is the veteran of the Iraq war, and she lost two legs while in combat, and when she came back, they, Democrats, now they've recruited her to run against Peter Roskam for Henry Hyde's seat in DuPage County up around Elmhurst. RUSH: Yeah. Well, I know it's the fear thing -- or the sympathy thing -- but I actually think it's something else out there, Steve, and I think it's not new. There's nothing new in the Democratic Party playbook. This is nothing but fear. The Michael J. Fox ads in Missouri and Maryland play on people's fears. The attempt to come up with a cure for spinal paralysis is nothing but an attempt to play on people's fears. Throughout my political awareness, my adult years, I have listened to Democrats say that the election of Republicans will lead to the end of Social Security; that people will be kicked out of their homes, that their money will be snatched in any number of ways; that senior citizens will be eating dog food as opposed to getting prescriptions because the Republicans are going to fix it so they don't have enough money to do both. |
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This is quite common, but fear is something that everybody battles through every day. Everybody fears something multiple times a day. If you're a Social Security recipient, and that's all you've got, and a trusted Democrat politician comes along and tells you that the Republicans are going to take it away from you, you may not be able to take the chance that they're lying to you. Take a look at NAACP ads in 2000 and 2004. We had radio ads suggesting (in St. Louis, by the way) that Bush was responsible for black churches burning. We had a television ad, the James Byrd ad, a lynching ad that Bush didn't do anything about James Byrd being dragged behind the bumper of a fast-moving automobile down a dirt road. These are frequent and common appearances. So the Tammy Duckworth situation, there may be a little difference here, but, you know, Democrats, in addition to Tammy Duckworth, have gone out and recruited eight Iraq war veterans -- and none of them are doing well. Some of them didn't even survive their primary. Within a week of Bush taking office in 2000, he was responsible for leaving arsenic in the water that was going to poison everybody! Forty-three to 53 million Americans don't have health insurance and cannot go to the doctor, and they're just one breath away, one inhale away from getting a fatal disease. So this is unseemly stuff, and it's playing not so much on sympathy but on fear. You take people are horrible diseases, like Michael J. Fox has, Parkinson's disease or something else that gets progressively worse over time -- Alzheimer's, you name it, cancer that is not curable -- to exploit these diseases and to try to convince voters that there is a political party who doesn't want the cure to ever happen, that they want people to get sick and they want people to die. It's no different than saying they're going to take all your money away by cutting your Social Security and kick you out of your house. I'll never forget, 1985, '86, working at -- '84, actually, in Sacramento, Ronald Reagan was responsible for AIDS. Ronald Reagan and the Republicans wanted AIDS victims to die -- and you know why? Because Reagan never uttered the word! Reagan never talked about AIDS. You go look at the federal budgets, the outlays on AIDS research, and you'll see the lie put to that myth. Now, this is a common Democrat tactic. It is very common to lie and misname ballot initiatives to convince people they're voting for just the opposite of what they think they're voting for. This is how Democrats operate. Ladies and gentlemen, learn it; love it; live it: Democrats cannot look you in the eye and say here's what we're for and convince you to vote for it. They have to trick you, they have to lie to you, they have to try to fool you or mislead you while camouflaging themselves, and this latest tactic of the Michael J. Fox commercial in Missouri and Maryland is just the latest incarnation. |
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THANKS TO RUSH: the Pubs just put out an ad refuting the Prop. which is misnamed on stem cell (actually it is a cloning issue) by using many famous Mo. sports stars in the ad. Claire has used Fox and vice versa and the ad he made is running in Md. and Minn. too. Hopefully, the Gop will rebut it very quickly.
Mr Fox is saying, in essence, that his life is more valuable than a baby.
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You have backed into the ultimate truth of socialism: The sacrifice of the disenfranchised is the cost of achievement. Welfare is the preferred tool of socialists because it keeps an entire class in government mandated poverty and makes the resources they would squander available to those worthy of them.
For a socialist there is only so much of anything to go around. Keeping a large segment of the population from sharing desirable goods is vital to maintaining an elite class. North Korea is the current quintessential example.
Slavery, class warfare, genocide and racism are all tools of socialism. This is not to say that other forms of government have not tried these evils, only that socialist states have been most effective in perpetrating them.
The sacrifice of embryonic parasites is a fundamental tenent of socialism. The unborn have no intrinsic value. They are not human. Any use to which this mass of protoplasm can be put justifies and elevates abortion to a moral good. Controlling the growth of undesirable classes is the most basic principle of Planned Parenthood. Abortion is, in fact, the most important tool of socialism.
Clearly, if embryonic parasites can be used to cure dread disease their use is absolute and critical. Even if there is no success at all, the use of neonatal tissue in the laboratory is preferable to dogs, cats, monkeys, mice and rats. Animals, after all, have rights, embryonic parasites in humans are devoid of all rights.
I am constantly flabbergasted that the very people held in the greatest contempt by socialists, the poor and uneducated, are the Democrat party's greatest source of power. The ability of socialist elitists to deceive is absolutely their greatest achievement.
{I}There was wisdom in previous centuries -- when folks considered "actors" as undesirables and had them keep their distance and their "place"..{/I}
And do you lump Ronald Reagan into that catagory?
"Leftists are not results oriented"
exactly right..this seems to be a sick infatuation with WANTING to kill embryos just for the heck of it.
If they were results oriented they would be campaigning for funds to be diverted to adult stem cell research...this is where the results have been achieved.
Really...this shouldn't be a conservative vs. liberal issue if people would just focus on the actual results of studies done.
I don't feel sorry for Fox. Anyone who will go off their medication just to make campaign ads to get DemocRATS elected are blithering, moronic idiots and Fox is their poster boy.
So here we are at a crossroad. The Republicans have not governed as well as they might have. Yes Foley, once exposed, was expunged from the Congress, unlike Frank, Studds, or Clinton, but they are stuck with their intimidation of Political Correctness....stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea. If they had attacked Foley, they would have been labeled homophobes. Not attacking and expelling Foley got them this. So, the lesson is, see the truth, right, fairness, don't lie,...and at least you know you did right. The democrats do not think like this. If we do not stand up and refuse to be forced to make the "Good" the enemy of the "Perfect", our country will be the worse for it. And our children, in years to come, will come to see our failure to hold the line and have, perhaps, an insoluable problem. Vote for who you believe will make our country the best that it can be.
You should have read the second sentence..
"In most cases -- they've been proven correct."
Semper Fi
I'm also thinking no one should criticize Rush Limbaugh, after all, he does have a disability as well. Without his cochlear implant, he could not hear. I mean if that's the way the crazu left wants to play it.
Victim politics is a staple of the left. If the victim is famous and politically favorable to them, he/she/them are beyond reproach.
I sympathize with Michael J. Fox. Who can't? But when he starts plugging his politics into the public arena, he'd better accept that he'll be scrutinized, too.
Not just sports stars but believing and practicing Catholics.
Suppan and Sweeny are Catholics firm in their beliefs.
Is that a rhetorical question?
Excellent. I hope MO., MD. and Minn. voters have a backlash against these Dem ads which are once again using suffering and fraud to state an inaccurate ad which actually in MO. should deal with cloning as Prop. 2 does and has nothing to do with stem cell research. I hope the voters bring in Talent, Steele, and Kennedy in all 3 states because of this fraud.
Michael stop drinking the diet sodas...aspartame is bad news...especially for you.
The link below is an interesting one with interviews with Fox and Ali.
http://www.veotag.com/player/Default.aspx?pid=b48abfb4-aa12-43e5-99e2-1bf3a47fa464
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1726267/posts
The Wrong Tree Embryonic stem cells are not all that.
http://www.nationalreview.com/ ^ | May 13, 2004, 8:58 a.m. | Wesley J. Smith
Posted on 10/26/2006 7:32:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.p?ref=/comment/smith200405130858.asp
May 13, 2004, 8:58 a.m. The Wrong Tree Embryonic stem cells are not all that.
By Wesley J. Smith
Once again the media are trumpeting the call among many in Congress, pushed by millions in Big Biotech lobbying money, for President Bush to reverse his decision to limit federal funding of embryonic-stem-cell research (ESCR) to those lines already in existence on August 9, 2001. Fronted this time by the grief-stricken Nancy Reagan, and boosted by Hollywood celebrities such as Christopher Reeve, Michael J. Fox, and Mary Tyler Moore, we are warned darkly, as a recent New York Times editorial put it, that the existing federal-funding restrictions "are so potentially damaging to medicine" that the administration is encountering opposition to its policy even among its "own conservative supporters."
We have heard this mantra many times before but repetition does not make it true. A great deal has been learned about the potential of regenerative medicine since President Bush reached his "compromise" decision ending the stem-cell debate of 2001. And indeed, perhaps the time has come for us to revisit this issue, albeit from a different angle than suggested by ESCR boosters. Perhaps the problem with the Bush plan isn't that it provides too little federal money for ESCR, but too much at least if our national goal is to find cures to diseases such as Alzheimer's, diabetes, and Parkinson's in the shortest period of time.
The media is so excited about the supposed potential of embryonic stem cells that it gives far too little attention to the many and serious problems associated with this potential source of regenerative medicine. Listening to the hype, one might think that ESCR is on the verge of tremendous success. But the hard truth is that it does not appear likely that embryonic stem cells will soon become the panacea that fervid supporters of the research often claim. For example:
In animal studies, embryonic-stem-cell treatments have been found to cause tumors. In one mouse study involving an attempt to treat Parkinson's-type symptoms, more than 20 percent of the mice died from brain tumors this despite researchers reducing the number of cells administered from the usual 100,000 to 1,000.
Tissue rejection is another major hurdle to the use of embryonic stem cells in medical treatments. This is why ESCR is known as the gateway to human cloning, since one proposed way out of this potential dilemma is to create cloned embryos of patients being treated as a source of stem cells, a process known as "therapeutic cloning." Not coincidentally, many of the same proponents who are now urging increased funding for ESCR also advocate that we legalize and publicly fund therapeutic-cloning research, which many find immoral because it creates cloned human life for the sole purpose of experimentation and destruction.
Besides being immoral, therapeutic cloning also looks to be wildly impractical. For example, a recent report published by the National Academy of Sciences warned that it could cost in the neighborhood of $200,000 just to pay for the human eggs to derive one cloned human embryonic-stem-cell line.
The above is an excerpt. Please go to the full thread for an excellent rebuttal to Fox and the other lying liberals:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1726267/posts
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