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To: WorkingClassFilth
As a conservative (I assume this) the notion of personal responsibility should be paramount in your concept of social order and stability.

It is. Responsibility is an individual thing.

Of course, that is precisely the missing element in your analysis of the times and, oddly enough, the boomer apologists as well.

I'm not trying to make excuses for anyone. Lumping people into any kind of group think based on age or "generation" is pointless.

Seems mighty strange to me that a g-g-generation that refered to itself as the 'me generation' (among other aliases) should be so loath to take any responsibility for the horrendous consequences that their drug use, promiscuity, socialist idealism, rank hypocrisy and total lack of self-control has wrought.

Every single generation has some of these people! Our nation was trending in that direction before the first boomer was born.

I was twenty when I bought my first house & that meant taking out our first mortgage. Our parents didn't give us a cent for down payment. Instead, I got the song & dance about how spoiled it made me. Twelve percent interest, but pulled it off & had to pay more than triple the price my parents had paid for their first house. We had used furniture, used clothes, used cars & no money for entertainment, but we were "spoiled". No money for entertainment was okay though, cuz we were working all of the time anyway.

I watched most of my peers knock themselves out to do the best they knew how for their families. You are trying to buy into a lot of media hype created about a generation & in doing so, you're not seeing them as individuals. Yes, many of my peers made bad life choices, but many more of them made correct choices.

Hey, if it feels good, do it. Love means never having to say you're sorry.

Check the bios of the originators of those phrases & get back to me!

37 posted on 10/25/2006 7:43:17 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly
Responsibility is an individual thing.

I'm pleased that you agree with me that individual responsibility is fundamentally important. When the aggregate actions of these same individuals are examined, though, it becomes another piece of evidence that boomers are a failed generation. You and I, fortunately, are not in sync with the deeds and reputation of our times.

Lumping people into any kind of group think based on age or "generation" is pointless.

The need to make comparisons and draw contrasts is crucial to any kind of analysis. You cannot ameliorate the culpability of our g-g-generation or pass the buck onto the WWII'ers without doing precisely what you are objecting to. Sorry, friend, but a cohort, in a historical sense, is judged by the deeds (or misdeeds) of the many. Another way of saying it is that you are judged by the company you keep. By any honest and comprehensive standard, your objections do not hold water.

Every single generation has some of these people! Our nation was trending in that direction before the first boomer was born.

Uh, I guess you are have missed a page or two of history somewhere along the line. However, to be fair, please make your case that in 1945 a seething, pulsing generational desire to murder 45 million offspring was secretly practiced to enable carefree hedonism...

Truth is, there was no such characteristic to that generation. None. They valued and multiplied their children as the boomer cohort empirically attests. Now, we both agree there were deviants in those days as befitting human nature - even deviants that helped pass bad laws. That doesn't, however, define anything but the rule of human nature. The character of that generation is an astounding contrast to the self-justifying sniveling of our murderous and hedonistic g-g-generation.

You are trying to buy into a lot of media hype created about a generation & in doing so, you're not seeing them as individuals.

Once again, we are agreed that as individuals, many of us did not get on board with our g-g-generation. That said, we were/are the pig in a python in terms of our generational impact - on everything. That effect is the summation of all or our collective choices - and we collectively made horrible and suicidal choices. In that regard, we may be innocent members of a particularly weak, self-deluded and indulgent generation, but we are members nonetheless. If your individual conscience is troubled by a collective label, it's time to buck up and make a healthy distinction between your own self-identity and innocent membership in a loser g-g-generation that has brought America to the doorstep of our national demise.
39 posted on 10/29/2006 5:20:03 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Ever learning . . .)
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