Actor Fox stars in campaign ad for Doyle(D-WI)

KARE-TV, AP ^ | October 24, 2006

[July 4th]

Ironically, Wisconsin benefits quite well from the current federal situation, as it's the rights holder to many of the approved lines of stem cells.

[Dane]

I strongly support other lines of research and I pray that a cure can be found.

I do also, and Michael J. Fox's distortions do not help.

[GretchenM]

Just a headline on Drudge at this point, but interesting nonetheless:

Counter Ad To Michael J. Fox running in Missouri tomorrow night; stars Jim Caviezel of 'The Passion of Christ' and Cardinals pitcher Jeff Suppan, who pitches Game 4 of World Series...

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Yes, but "Diamond Jim" Doyle needs to keep additional "extortable income streams" open for the future. *Rolleyes*

Luckily, after November 7th, that will no longer be a problem for us in Wisconsin, Right? :)

At the very least, we'll keep the WI House and Senate, and we'll also have J.B. Van Hollen in charge as Attorney General, investigting and prosecuting that slimeball Doyle!

[Arizona Carolyn]

He's really making the rounds, isn't he? They did a segment at the opening of Bill O'Reilly and he was all over this defending MJF and damning Rush Limbaugh until the guest he had on set OR straight on how MJF is outright lying in these ads and that Rush had told his audience that MJF purposely doesn't take his drugs when he's lobbying for the disease.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Senate = Assembly.

[LukeL]

I know what you mean I am 21 and am surprised at how ignorant people my age are about things that happened from 1990 on back.

[pollyannaish]

Without commenting one way or another on Fox (or democrat) tactics, I believe attacking him personally is poor political strategy. There is too a vast reservoir of good will for this very likable, family man.

[Hildy]

All this talk about Fox is doing just what the Dems want...this is a no win argument for our side...the guy is ill...he looked so sick in that commercial. Instead of debating the real issue, we look like morons attacking Fox. Good going Republicans!

[pollyannaish]

I agree. There is plenty of reason to disagree with him, but that is different than attacking him personally.

It's bad form and stupidity to attack a sick man no matter what he is doing. Dems know that of course, which is why they are using him. HE on the other hand probably means well and is trying to make a difference. The problem is he is trying to make a difference using the wrong methods. That is where we need to go with this.

Fox is infinitely likable, has lived a relatively clean life and has, for the most part not been generally activist. He is not the Dixie Chicks. Heck, Reeves would have been easier to attack and win than this guy.

No need to lose the stem cell debate via a popularity contest. It can be won tangentially. We should just shut up about Fox.

[Watery Tart]

Anyone remember the 2004 Presidential Debates?

Q Senator Kerry, thousands of people have already been cured or treated by the use of adult stem cells, or umbilical chord stem cells. However, no one was been cured by using embryonic stem cells. Wouldn't it be wise to use stem cells obtained without the destruction of an embryo.

SENATOR KERRY: You know, Elizabeth, I really respect your -- the feeling that's in your question. I understand it. I know the morality that's prompting that question, and I respect it enormously. But like Nancy Reagan and so many other people -- you know, I was at a forum with Michael J. Fox the other day in New Hampshire, who's suffering from Parkinson's. And he wants us to do stem cell -- embryonic stem cell. And this fellow stood up and he was quivering, his whole body was shaking from the nerve disease, the muscular disease that he had, and he said to me and to the whole hall, he said, you know, don't take away my hope because my hope is what keeps me going. Chris Reeve is a friend of mine. Chris Reeve exercises every single day to keep those muscles alive for the day when he believes he can walk again -- and I want him to walk again.

(It was at this point -- the end of his "keeps me going" speech -- that it is seared, SEARED in my memory that sKerry started doing the "Funky Chicken" dance; others did not see it the same way. Video may be here, but I have pokey dialup.)

MJF is being used by the dims, whether he admits this or not. He just may be ignorant. We already know al-Kerry wouldn't admit it. "Bingo" Jim Doyle?

NOT IN MY NAME!

[paulat]

Already posted. Do a search on "Fox."

[Dane]

Without commenting one way or another on Fox (or democrat) tactics, I believe attacking him personally is poor political strategy. There is too a vast reservoir of good will for this very likable, family man

Now why should he be immune from criticism. He has basically lied in these commercials with his saying that Republicans are against stem cell research, when it is embryonic stem cell research.

[pollyannaish]

He shouldn't be immune from criticism in the sense that he said something that is provably not true. That SHOULD be refuted strenuously.

It is the personal attacks on his intentions that will go nowhere and cause blow back, imo. We have to fight this fight CLEAN.

Should he be immune? Of course not. But, politics is a game of perception, and Fox has a connection with most Americans. Therefore, we have to fight this thing smart and carefully. VERY carefully.

That doesn't mean we don't refute what he says. We just have to depersonalize it and make it about TRUTH not FOX. That's actually why the celebrity ad from our side is pretty good. It's frustrating because this is a high hurdle, but it's all part of the game.

I hope I am making my position clear. It's not about the truth of our position. It is about the perception that we are being "mean." There is a time and place for that...this is not one of those times.

[Dane]

Should he be immune? Of course not. But, politics is a game of perception, and Fox has a connection with most Americans. Therefore, we have to fight this thing smart and carefully. VERY carefully

Exposing his lies and his past playing up of Parkinson's by not taking his medication is example enough for me that MJF has joined the Barbara Streisand Hollywood liberals.

[MEGoody]

I take it from your post that what is being given to the voters is a lie and the real language of the bill is something else

Exactly.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

"MJF is being used by the dims, whether he admits this or not."

Exactly.