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Colombia Presents Evidence that the FARC is Using Ecuador & Venezuela as Sanctuaries (Translation)
El Espectador ( Bogota ) ^ | October 23, 2006 | Staff article ( translated by self )

Posted on 10/23/2006 2:03:06 PM PDT by StJacques

Government compiles proof of the presence of the FARC in Ecuador

The Foreign Minister, Maria Consuelo Araujo, and the Minister of Defense, Juan Manuel Santos, say they will have shown in brief that the insurgents are taking refuge in Venezuela and Ecuador


Sunday, 22 October 2006

Last Thursday, President Alvaro Uribe denounced [the fact that] the guerrillas Raul Reyes, the alias of Luis Eduard Devia, is hiding in Ecuador, and Ivan Marquez, whose true name is Luciano Marin Arango, is doing so in Venezuela.

After the statements, Ecuadoran authorities asked the Colombians for evidence that Reyes, the FARC's principal spokesman, "is hiding himself" in that country, as the President indicated.

In statements of various speakers, such as Santos as well as Araujo, they have said that "recent" proof exists of the presence of Reyes in Ecuadoran territory and of that of Marquez in Venezuela.

As to the evidence which the head of [the Ministry of] Defense possesses, Foreign Minister Araujo said that "we are going to send it (to Ecuador) very soon by diplomatic routes in the name of the Combifron (Bi-National Frontier Commission) so that they know it first hand." According to Minister Santos, "by intelligence reports" it is known that Reyes is hiding in the rainforests of Ecuador.

Last Saturday the Ecuadoran Foreign Minister, Francisco Carrion, summoned the Ambassador of Colombia in Quito, Carlos Holguin, so that he would explain his statements to the press of that country, so that he gave an account of those "intelligence reports of the Colombian army" on the presence of guerrilla leaders in Ecuador.

That same day Holguin responded that, "if Ecuador wishes to know this information in detail, the Colombian government will be well-disposed to supply it to them."

Foreign Minister Araujo admitted, in a like manner, that since last week she has spoken two times per day with the Ecuadoran Minister of Foregin Relations.

With information from the EFE news service.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: colombia; cubazuela; ecuador; farc; farctrans; hugoping; hugotrans; stjtranslation; venezuela
There have been ongoing and, from all appearances, cooperative exchanges between the governments of Ecuador and Colombia over this issue, whose details surprise no one I would expect. The Venezuelan government has not responded publicly, in so far as I was able to determine from an earlier search of the El Universal (Caracas) web site.
1 posted on 10/23/2006 2:03:10 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: Alia; livius; proud_yank; Kenny Bunk; Founding Father; Kitten Festival; chilepepper; Fiddlstix; ...
A Latin American Left Watch ping for you all.

Anyone wishing to be included on the ping list may either ping me from this thread or contact me via Freepmail.
2 posted on 10/23/2006 2:03:52 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Bump


3 posted on 10/23/2006 2:14:01 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: StJacques
Turnabout is fair play. Suppose there are any insurgent groups in Venezuela that could use some help from Columbia? And since ol Hugo is assisting FARC, a narco-terrorist group, I 'spouse it'd be okey to use some of that anti-drug money from Washington against him.
4 posted on 10/23/2006 3:02:01 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: StJacques

Ecuador has always been FARC's safe rear area.

Common FARC guerrillas keep their families on the Ecuadorian side of the border, and frequently visit them there. They take their R&R there, hanging out in the local taverns, they buy their supplies there in the local grocery and hardware stores. The police look the other way; I was told that as long as they don't show their weapons, they prefer not to get involved.

There are occasional shootouts in the bars, however, between Farc guerrillas and anti-Farc paras taking their day off in the same place at the same time.

Ecuadorian special police and military units do patrol, but they have a talent for uncovering guerrilla camps that have already been vacated; their primary interest is in dealing with Ecuadorian guerrilla-wannabes, not the real thing.

FARC guerrillas also invest their money on the Ecuadorian side, sometimes openly in their own names, sometimes through Ecuadorian partners, buying up farms, hotels, bars and so on. Ecuadorians comment that if a FARC guerrilla makes you an offer, you're not really in a position to haggle too much about the price.

Ecuadorian military and customs officers have been caught facilitating weapons and other supply transfers through Ecuadorian seaports to the interior, one Ecuadorian politician was assassinated by Colombian anti-Farc "paras" supposedly for his involvement in weapons trafficking to the guerrillas (as well as his involvement supposedly in recruiting Ecuadorian students into armed militant groups). Ecuadorian intel involvement in his murder might be supposed from the fact that the Colombian shooters were allowed to get away, and the only arrests made (rather quickly) were of local gophers who didn't know much.

Ecuador tries to walk down the middle, they don't want a guerrilla war spilling over the borders, and they don't have the muscle to face FARC even if they wanted to. And if you are well placed and well connected, there is money to be made by looking the other way as FARC supplies flow through Ecuadorian ports.


5 posted on 10/23/2006 3:12:30 PM PDT by marron
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To: StJacques

I'm glad Uribe is finally getting assertive about this with the two regional clown leaders who plague his eastern and southern borders. Both of Chavez and Palacios are idiots and malandros.


6 posted on 10/23/2006 3:44:23 PM PDT by Kitten Festival
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To: Kitten Festival; marron
Kitten, you wrote:

"I'm glad Uribe is finally getting assertive about this with the two regional clown leaders who plague his eastern and southern borders."

I have the feeling Uribe is getting flat-out "assertive" period! Just yesterday he announced that he was ending talks with the FARC on a negotiated "prisoner exchange" -- meaning imprisoned FARC guerrillas for kidnapped Colombians -- and would instead order an offensive against them in two centers of southeastern Colombia which the FARC is asking the Colombian government to declare as a "safe haven" for them. Uribe is coming under significant domestic criticism for his tough stance, but it seems that he has the overall support of the people as best as I can tell. The Colombians have become pretty tough over the years and last week's failed FARC assassination attempt against a Colombian General did not help their cause.

And as a side comment, I have the feeling today's story is primarily aimed at Ecuador. marron's post #5 above is directly in line with other information I have seen and probably goes a long way to describing Uribe's motivations.
7 posted on 10/23/2006 5:04:22 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; machogirl; NinoFan; chilepepper; ...
This is an update to say, well; no news as of yet. Everyone will be waiting to see the results of the new round of voting.

There's really nothing up on the Mexican newspaper web sites worth discussing right now, they're in a holding pattern until the end of the week.

But just in case anyone thinks APPO is intending to abide by the decision of the teacher's union, take a look at these pics of APPO welders going around Oaxaca City and welding the gates shut of schools, with the obvious intent of keeping them shut in case the teachers vote to end the strike.


   

                                                     

8 posted on 10/23/2006 9:03:35 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; machogirl; NinoFan; chilepepper; ...
Forgive me everyone, I pinged you to the wrong thread. I meant to put this on the Oaxaca thread.

I've done this before I'm sorry to say.
9 posted on 10/23/2006 9:07:41 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques
Forgive???? Hah! You're hereby condemned to live in New Cartagena, run by Ilych Ramirez Sanchez once he gets out of jail.

;^)

Couldn't resist...

10 posted on 10/23/2006 11:02:59 PM PDT by SAJ (debunking myths about markets and prices on FR since 2001)
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To: kanawa; jazusamo; Thunder90; Hill of Tara; Victoria Delsoul; Army Air Corps; monkeywrench; cll; ...


*Thanks to Victoria DelSoul for the graphic.

PING – Hugo is at it again!

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11 posted on 10/23/2006 11:37:27 PM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: StJacques; Alia; livius; proud_yank; Founding Father; Kitten Festival; chilepepper; Fiddlstix; ...
in re Colombia Presents Evidence that the FARC is Using Ecuador & Venezuela as Sanctuaries: Let me axe youse all a question.

We on our far-flung keyboards have known (or at least had well-founded suspicion based on observations during our travels and business) this for quite some time. How can it be that the media, on their far-flung keyboards, does not?

May we suppose that some left-wing State-Department cookie-pusher also might have a clue?

12 posted on 10/24/2006 6:50:59 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (bitt, I am not easily shocked, but this time you have really done it.)
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To: kanawa; jazusamo; Thunder90; Hill of Tara; Victoria Delsoul; Army Air Corps; monkeywrench; cll

Pinging everyone


13 posted on 10/24/2006 6:51:54 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (bitt, I am not easily shocked, but this time you have really done it.)
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To: StJacques

I guess you've seen by now how the WSJ's edition for today says Venezuela is most likely going to back down to that other country's candidacy on the UN Council?


14 posted on 10/25/2006 12:56:08 PM PDT by Shuttle Shucker
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To: Shuttle Shucker

Yeah, I'm about to post on that subject.


15 posted on 10/25/2006 2:26:49 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Time will tell if Chavez can lose despite his 20 point lead:

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-11-04T221544Z_01_N04460417_RTRUKOC_0_US-VENEZUELA-MARCH.xml&src=rss&rpc=22


16 posted on 11/05/2006 5:03:26 PM PST by Shuttle Shucker
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To: Shuttle Shucker
20 pt. lead my arse!

Bloomberg.com -- Chavez lead is 4 pts.
17 posted on 11/06/2006 12:59:36 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Sweet! But excluding alternative political parties from the polling seems like it could pad the opponent's standing vs. incumbent Chavez. Nevertheless, hopefully other polls will show that this one's not rogue...

Please keep up the impressive work. With Ortega's recent victory in Nicaragua, Mexico and El Salvador will be pretty lonely in their region if Chavez wins. Not that that's enough to slow down Mexico's potential progress though (bombs notwithstanding)...


18 posted on 11/06/2006 6:12:33 PM PST by Shuttle Shucker
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