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Tan Nguyen Will Not Withdraw From Congressional Race
NBC 4 TV ^ | October 22, 2006 | NBC 4 TV

Posted on 10/22/2006 9:19:37 PM PDT by freedomdefender

In a press conference Sunday, Republican 47th District congressional candidate Tan Nguyen said he will not abandon his bid for a seat in Congress.

Agents raided Nguyen's campaign offices last week in connection with a probe into a letter sent to Hispanic voters claiming it is illegal for immigrants to vote.

Nguyen said he has done nothing illegal and did not send the letter.

A criminal investigation is under way, NBC4 reported.

An Orange County Republican party official called on Nguyen Thursday to withdraw from his race against Rep. Loretta Sanchez, D-Garden Grove, because of the letter.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: fakehatemail; stophillary; tannguyen
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To: freedomdefender

Since when does legal immigrant = legal US citizen with the legal right to vote?


41 posted on 10/22/2006 10:53:21 PM PDT by tioga
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To: linn37
ahhh - It is against the law for illegals to vote, even tho' they don't get punished - but someone who reminds them that it is illegal is being investigated and if they can verify it =- HE will be the criminal?

What am I missing here? Have the Socialists really gotten their agenda so well ensconced that this sort of Communistic Socialism can now be perpetrated openly? I have been fantasizing about heading for the woods and building a survival shelter - maybe it's time ...
42 posted on 10/22/2006 11:00:17 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: kuma

Make sure you differentiate from legal and illegal immigrants. An immigrant, if legal, is entitled to vote if naturalized. Illegal immigrants are not entitled to vote.


43 posted on 10/22/2006 11:01:24 PM PDT by farlander (Strategery - sure beats liberalism!)
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To: kuma

You are correct. Legal immigrants include those with permanent residency (popularly known as green-card holders), as well as work visa H1-B holders. Only immigrants that are naturalized citizens are entitled to vote.


44 posted on 10/22/2006 11:03:25 PM PDT by farlander (Strategery - sure beats liberalism!)
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To: jeremiah

You bet.


45 posted on 10/22/2006 11:05:58 PM PDT by farlander (Strategery - sure beats liberalism!)
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To: tioga

Legal naturalized immigrants have the right to vote. Legal permanent residents and others do not.


46 posted on 10/22/2006 11:06:55 PM PDT by farlander (Strategery - sure beats liberalism!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
It wasn't only alleged, it was proven that she got the position through illegal votes but some far left judge refused to throw them out and award the seat to the legal winner, B1-Bob.[Bob Dornan]
47 posted on 10/22/2006 11:16:17 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (Soros and Clinton's for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington = SCREW.)
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bookmark #32


48 posted on 10/22/2006 11:20:40 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (Soros and Clinton's for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington = SCREW.)
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To: kuma
that immigrants are not allowed to vote

Some immigrants are allowed to vote.

49 posted on 10/22/2006 11:23:24 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Some immigrants are allowed to vote.




Not until they've taken the 'Oath of Citizenship' and become an American citizen. Then and ONLY then can they vote.

signed:

Once a legal immigrant, now a U.S. Citizen.

AmeriBrit.


50 posted on 10/22/2006 11:26:32 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (Soros and Clinton's for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington = SCREW.)
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To: calcowgirl
Sanchez is going to get all her illegal alien votes to count.

Ch 4 [NBC] just said the A.G. is sending out a letter to all those that received the other one to tell them if they voted in the last election, they can vote in this one.

I'm going to end up with either a broken fist or a large hole in the wall over this b#####d sanchez.
51 posted on 10/22/2006 11:32:54 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (Soros and Clinton's for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington = SCREW.)
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To: AmeriBrit

Hopefully NBC is confused. The Secretary of State issued a statement Thursday, saying he would mail out letters reiterating the law. I posted something here, with links to the source:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1723642/posts?page=41#41



52 posted on 10/22/2006 11:35:43 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

O.C. will consider trying to correct Nguyen mailer

Supervisors on Tuesday will take up the question of approving a letter to remedy misstatements.

By Mai Tran, Times Staff Writer
October 22, 2006


The Orange County Board of Supervisors will determine Tuesday whether county officials should send letters to 14,000 voters in response to a racially charged mailer distributed by congressional candidate Tan Nguyen, authorities said.

County Registrar of Voters Neal Kelley had planned to appear Thursday with Secretary of State Bruce McPherson to announce that the letters would be sent to correct misstatements in Nguyen's mailer.


However, Kelley pulled out of the news conference after several supervisors argued that his office should not get involved, Supervisor Bill Campbell said Saturday.

"The board was in favor that the registrar of voters did not have an obligation and should not get into correcting political mail," Campbell said.

"People make extravagant claims, and the role of the registrar is not of enforcement. The secretary of state has the enforcement role; our role is to run elections as even-handed as possible and to count them as accurately as possible."


53 posted on 10/22/2006 11:40:43 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: calcowgirl
"will not contain the name or signature of Secretary McPherson"

Why not? Seems to me it should have the name and signature on it so the recipients know it's official.
54 posted on 10/22/2006 11:45:06 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (Soros and Clinton's for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington = SCREW.)
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To: calcowgirl
Braniff reading the "original English version of the draft" (saying he would limit himself to the relevant parts and not read it in its entirety..

You are receiving this letter because you recently registered to vote. If you are a citizen of the U.S., we encourage you to participate in the democratic process.

However, if you are here illegally, or are just a resident with a green-card, you should be advised that voting at any federal election is a crime.

Thanks for the update!

Back-translations of translations rarely, if ever, match the original. Unfortunately for Tan Nguyen, the stupid politicians are grandstanding based on the changed words of the back-translation of the translation.

55 posted on 10/22/2006 11:47:48 PM PDT by heleny (NO on all bonds/taxes)
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To: AmeriBrit
"will not contain the name or signature of Secretary McPherson"
Why not? Seems to me it should have the name and signature on it so the recipients know it's official.

Maybe because he doesn't want Democrats to accuse him of using his office to help his reelection?

If they must send a letter, I hope they use English, since people evidently have trouble with the Spanish translations. Election laws are written in English only, and the law is not too different from the content of the Spanish letter regarding elegibility to vote.

56 posted on 10/22/2006 11:51:58 PM PDT by heleny (NO on all bonds/taxes)
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To: heleny

It'll be interesting if it is in English to have it translated then back-translated and see how it changes the wording.


57 posted on 10/23/2006 12:03:30 AM PDT by AmeriBrit (Soros and Clinton's for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington = SCREW.)
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To: AmeriBrit
Not until they've taken the 'Oath of Citizenship' and become an American citizen. Then and ONLY then can they vote.

Generally, but not completely, correct. In some municipalities, resident aliens are allowed to vote in local elections. As far as I know, your statement is true as to federal and state elections. And, of course, the story here deals with such an election.

58 posted on 10/23/2006 12:08:28 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Bernard Marx
Thanks. Finally some sanity.

The letter never mentioned the word immigrant or implied immigration.

Border vernacular has a term but its pronunciation is an uneducated hybrid, TexMex, compounded by the difficulty for the English listener because the sound of the letter i in Spanish approaches an e in English. To a gringo, EEN-ME-GRAHDO sounds like M-ME-GRAHDO sounds like EEM-ME-GRAHDO.

Even in the US, a majority of the population does not know the difference between emigration and immigration. Expecting an even less educated population to know the difference between emigrado , used in the letter, and inmigrado, which the US press conveniently used as the translation, is unrealistic.

The problem appears to have arisen because a scholarly translator was employed instead of a street kid.

59 posted on 10/23/2006 12:13:40 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: heleny

Braniff also told the press that the translator stood by their translation and use of "emigrado" for one who is NOT legal. He also said the translator's name had been given to state investigators.

So far, we have:

• Unnamed person who wrote the english version of the letter (connected to the campaign, but not the office manager)

• The unnamed office manager who gave the address database to the mailing house that was used to distribute the letters (Fired, but now asked to rejoin campaign)

• An unnamed LAPD officer who paid the mailing house for sending the letters (using an alias).

Never a dull moment!


60 posted on 10/23/2006 12:17:13 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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