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FRANCE: Why 112 cars are burning every day
The Times ^ | October 21, 2006 | Charles Bremner

Posted on 10/20/2006 4:10:20 PM PDT by MadIvan

A year after the Paris riots violence and despair remain endemic in the rundown suburbs

FLAMES lick around a burning car on a tiny telephone screen. Omar, 17, a veteran of France’s suburban riots, replayed the sequence with pride. “It was great. We did lots of them and then we went out and torched more the next day.”

Omar, whose parents immigrated from Mali, was savouring memories of the revolt that erupted 12 months ago from his home, the Chêne Pointu estate in Clichy-sous-Bois, in the eastern outskirts of Paris. “We’re ready for it again. In fact it hasn’t stopped,” he added.

Before next week’s anniversary of the Clichy riots, the violence and despair on the estates are again to the fore. Despite a promised renaissance, little has changed, and the lid could blow at any moment.

The figures are stark. An average of 112 cars a day have been torched across France so far this year and there have been 15 attacks a day on police and emergency services. Nearly 3,000 police officers have been injured in clashes this year. Officers have been badly injured in four ambushes in the Paris outskirts since September. Some police talk of open war with youths who are bent on more than vandalism.

“The thing that has changed over the past month is that they now want to kill us,” said Bruno Beschizza, the leader of Synergie, a union to which 40 per cent of officers belong. Action Police, a hardline union, said: “We are in a civil war, orchestrated by radical Islamists.”

Car-burning has become so routine on the estates that it has been eclipsed in news coverage by the violence against police. Sebastian Roche, a sociologist who has published a book on the riots, said that torching a vehicle had become a standard amusement. “There is an apprenticeship of destruction. Kids learn where the petrol tank is, how to make a petrol bomb,” he told The Times.

Nicolas Sarkozy, the Interior Minister who hopes to win the presidency next May, has once again taken the offensive, staging raids on the no-go areas and promising no mercy for the thugs who reign there.

With polls showing law and order as the top public concern, his presidential chances hang on his image as a tough cop.

M Sarkozy’s muscular approach is being challenged not just by Socialist opponents. President Chirac and Dominique de Villepin, his Prime Minister, are waging their own, softer, campaign to undermine the colleague whom they do not want to be president. M de Villepin called in community leaders this week and promised to accelerate hundreds of millions of pounds of measures that were promised last autumn to relieve the plight of the immigrant-dominated suburbs.

National politics seem far from Clichy, a leafy town of hulking apartment buildings only ten miles but a universe away from the Elysée Palace. However, the Interior Minister is cited by the estate youths as the symbol of their anger. “Sarko wants to wipe us out, clear us off the map,” said Rachid, 19. “They said they would help us after last year, but we’ve got nothing.”

Rachid is to attend a march next Friday for Zyed and Bouna, the teenagers whose deaths in an electrical station sparked the rioting that engulfed the Seine-Saint-Denis département, known from its registration number, 93, as le Neuf-Trois. The boys, aged 17 and 15, who were hiding from police when they were electrocuted, are seen in Clichy as martyrs. Amor Benna, 61, the Tunisian father of Zyed, appealed this week to the young to refrain from violence and use their votes for change. “I don’t want to see cars burning again,” he said from his home on the Chêne Pointu estate. But the unhappiness was understandable, said M Benna, a street cleaner. “The young were born here and they are French. But they have nothing. The real problem is work. If they had any these riots would not have happened.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: changedirection; doyousmellsmoke; enemywithin; eurabia; fifthcolumn; france; islam; jihad; muslims; quagmire; religionofpeace; rioting; rop; schadenfreude; swine; theregoesmybus
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To: MadIvan
" “The young were born here and they are French. But they have nothing. The real problem is work. If they had any these riots would not have happened.”

No...they are still free loading Muslims...first, last and eternally.

They had nothing where they lived, they have nothing now, and if they can't find a job in France -- why not go home?

This claim of jobs needed to end riots by Muslims, is also bullshit...
They'd be in the streets burning, maiming and screaming at the first drop of a cartoon, or sight of a Jew.

F'em if they can't take a joke. Suppress them.....Incarcerate or deport them....

Semper Fi

21 posted on 10/20/2006 4:20:10 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: MadIvan
Europe is no longer Europe, it is Eurabia, a colony of
Islam, where the Islamic invasion does not proceed only in a
physical sense, but also in a mental and cultural sense.

Oriana Fallaci

22 posted on 10/20/2006 4:20:32 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Jorge

"The real problem is work. If they had any these riots would not have happened."

If they were suitable employees, they'd have work.


23 posted on 10/20/2006 4:21:51 PM PDT by dsc
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To: MadIvan
I'll all for showing contempt for French automobiles

Some French autos deserved to be burned.


24 posted on 10/20/2006 4:22:14 PM PDT by My2Cents (The Democrat Party's '06 platform: Offering a "Suicide Pact With America.")
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To: MadIvan
An average of 112 cars a day have been torched across France so far this year

What a boon for the French auto industry. We clearly need more muslims here.

25 posted on 10/20/2006 4:22:16 PM PDT by umgud (I love NASCAR as much as the Democrats hate Bush)
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To: MadIvan

How the heck do the French get car insurance?


26 posted on 10/20/2006 4:22:30 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: MadIvan; All

"Send in the riot police and knock them flat."

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m107.htm

It could be done from a distance very easily.


27 posted on 10/20/2006 4:22:37 PM PDT by musicman
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To: MadIvan
"...The real problem is work. If they had any these riots would not have happened.”

Nonsense. Living in idleness on the money of infidels is the preferred moslem lifestyle. That welfare isn't as munificent as jizya 'should' be is the real problem. They want better handouts, not a job-the last thing these "youths" want is work where they'd have to wait on infidels, take orders from infidels, etc.

28 posted on 10/20/2006 4:23:04 PM PDT by Verloona Ti (Moslems are sensitive to everything except the screams of their victims being tortured)
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To: MadIvan
"staging raids on the no-go areas and promising no mercy for the thugs who reign there

It is totally beyond my comprehension that any community would establish "no-go" zones because they are too unsafe for citizens and the police. This is pure insanity. What's it going to take in order for the French to take back their own streets? Has socialism destroyed their society to the point that they have given up on being free men?

29 posted on 10/20/2006 4:30:11 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: MadIvan
The French leaders in charge now have all too much in common with the dem-rats over here. Let them in power over here(dem/rats) and they will try and bribe thier way out of every conflict that ever arises. Meanwhile Rome burns.
30 posted on 10/20/2006 4:31:30 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Republicain

ping :-)


31 posted on 10/20/2006 4:33:16 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: fanfan
THe french don't need car insurance the cars aren't worth anything.
32 posted on 10/20/2006 4:33:34 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: BlessedBeGod
The French don't realize they're at war.

Like they ever have?

33 posted on 10/20/2006 4:35:13 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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To: MadIvan

And, let us all not forget that Kerry wants the USA to be MORE like France! LOL!


34 posted on 10/20/2006 4:35:58 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (The Democrat Party... Alienating voters since 1967)
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To: river rat
Agreed. If I lived in a neighborhood where these scumbag towelheads were torching cars, I'd get out my trusty silencer and sharpen up my sniping skills.

These lowlifes are complete wastes of oxygen.

35 posted on 10/20/2006 4:37:10 PM PDT by kromike
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To: 2111USMC
Has socialism destroyed their society to the point that they have given up on being free men?

Yup. They're more worried whether the rest of the world likes them.

36 posted on 10/20/2006 4:38:24 PM PDT by kromike
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To: BlessedBeGod
The French don't realize they're at war.

Of course, they realize they are at war. They just haven't figured out the best way to surrender.

37 posted on 10/20/2006 4:41:36 PM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Chode

kinda sounds like Bagdad without the IEDs...


Great point. France should pull out of...France! Those Muslims have no WMD. Those policemen should never have gone in!


38 posted on 10/20/2006 4:44:23 PM PDT by winner3000
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To: BlessedBeGod

http://www.vdare.com/roberts/truth_follows_fiction.htm


39 posted on 10/20/2006 4:45:04 PM PDT by pgobrien (82d Abn Inf pings......)
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To: MadIvan

So, the offspring of Islam mated with Socialism is Anarchy. WHO KNEW??????


40 posted on 10/20/2006 4:45:24 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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