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Moms vs. Hip-Hop
Media Resource Center ^ | 10/20/06 | Brent Bozell III

Posted on 10/20/2006 10:57:46 AM PDT by qam1

Middle age has been disturbing for people of the baby-boomer rock-and-roll generation, waiting with dread for the day when Mick Jagger wanders on stage with a walker. Rock music of the Rolling Stones vintage is now in danger of being seen as Muzak for retirees. You can certainly hear it at the supermarket.

Rap music and the hip-hop culture is about 25 years younger than rock, and believe it or not, it’s happening there, too. Today’s children are now beginning to look askance at their parents for liking "old school" rap rather than today’s truly toxic stuff. The Washington Post captured a bit of this horror from Generation X when Post reporter Lonnae O’Neal Parker wrote a piece for the Sunday "Outlook" section titled "Why I Gave Up on Hip-Hop."

Born in 1967 in the middle-class southern suburbs of Chicago, Parker described the liberating nature of the early rap tunes for young blacks. She recalled getting in a musical shouting match on the school bus with the white students, "transfixed by our newfound ability to drown out their nullification." At first it was a vehicle for racial pride, but then it all changed. Rap was transformed into a musical ghetto for gangsters and pimps, and Parker sadly concluded, " I could no longer nod my head to the misogyny or keep time to the vapid materialism of another rap song."

In raising her two daughters, Parker had one very definitive image in mind capturing what’s wrong with today’s dominant trend in hip hop. At the 2003 MTV Video Music Awards, rappers Snoop Dogg and 50 Cent added pomp to the song "P.I.M.P." by featuring black women on leashes being walked onstage. This past August, she added, MTV-2 aired an episode of the cartoon "Where My Dogs At," which had Snoop Dogg again leading two black bikini-clad women around on leashes. She explained: "They squatted on their hands and knees, scratched themselves and defecated. The president of the network, a black woman, defended this as satire."

And the audience, mostly teenaged boys and girls, thought this was wonderful.

To protest the glamorization of the gangsta, itching to kill, loaded with bling, and treating every woman like a subhuman plaything, Parker and her friends protested, including the printing of T-shirts for girls with messages like "You look better without the bullet holes" and "Put the guns down" and "You want this? Graduate!"

It’s easy for parents to get discouraged. But in an online discussion on washingtonpost.com, Parker argued that her loving, determined, "old school" parental pressure on her daughters is more than a match for peer pressure and the popular culture. "I just keep playing my music, reinforcing my lessons, repeating my rhymes. My kids will hear whatever on the streets, but not in their momma’s house. Ultimately, it's my voice they'll hear in their heads until they grow old. Ultimately it's my voice that's more powerful."

A few days later, the Post added another reporter’s voice to the mix, another example of a black woman who loves the music, but rejects the reigning message. But Natalie Hopkinson saw it in a different, more racially conspiratorial light. She wrote about how she reacted in horror when a middle-aged white female professor of hers said her five-year-old son Maverick was a fine boy and added, "I just can’t wait to watch him grow up and see his wonderful career as a rap star."

The horror was understandable, but the edge of paranoia creeped into the article. Hopkinson didn’t think the remark was innocent, but "confirmation" of a "conspiracy to destroy black boys," citing an author named Jawanza Kunjufu. (His book by that title is harsher. He calls it "genocide.")

Seeing in a seemingly innocent and admiring remark a desire to keep black men oppressed -- or worse, dead – is jaw-dropping. Like Parker, Hopkinson wants to do a balancing act, to raise her son to be proud of black culture without buying "the Foul-Mouth Hip Hop Star CD." But her hostility against whites is nothing like Parker’s acknowledgment of a cultural problem raging across the races. Parker noted that white children are just as likely to subsidize and memorize the fouler brands of today’s hip-hop.

It might be controversial for mothers to fight for their daughters and their sons from a culture that glamorizes garbage. But fighting against the grain of music that places the stamp of "cool" on violent crime, greed, and misogyny is laudable work for mothers and fathers, black and white.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: gangstarap; genx; hiphop
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1 posted on 10/20/2006 10:57:46 AM PDT by qam1
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To: qam1

Rock and roll is dead man. It's been dead for years. My 17 year old son likes my old records. Zepplin, Cream etc.


2 posted on 10/20/2006 11:12:06 AM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: qam1

Teach the kids personal responsibility and everything else will fall into place.

Evil white man BTTT.


3 posted on 10/20/2006 11:14:30 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: hophead

"Rock and roll is dead man."

Yep. Every now and then a decent band will show up but as a genre, it's dead.


4 posted on 10/20/2006 11:20:38 AM PDT by L98Fiero (Evil is an exact science)
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To: taxed2death

Thank God my daughter likes everything from Bach to Linkin Park but does not listen to garbage. (well, except some of that thrash metal crud). She is a classical musician so she knows music from meritless noise.


5 posted on 10/20/2006 11:20:50 AM PDT by doodad
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6 posted on 10/20/2006 11:21:01 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1
Here's a challenge for anyone who wants to discuss this topic. Can anyone remember a single from 5 years ago worth repeating? 4 years ago? 3 years ago? Etc?

Pop music has hit a dead end, in my view. The future is in niches.

Regards, Ivan

7 posted on 10/20/2006 11:22:43 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: qam1
"Hip-Hop? It's just a fad."--------KG,1987
8 posted on 10/20/2006 11:23:20 AM PDT by Cagey
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To: qam1

"She recalled getting in a musical shouting match on the school bus with the white students, "transfixed by our newfound ability to drown out their nullification.""

I guess that's a difference between the north and south. Old hip-hop was more of a unifying force in our school in the early 80's. I don't remember being "transfixed by (blacks) newfound ability to drown out (whites) nullification". I remember black kids being pleasantly surprized that we liked the early hip-hop. I have a CD of old-school-rap in my changer right now.


9 posted on 10/20/2006 11:24:37 AM PDT by L98Fiero (Evil is an exact science)
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To: hophead
"Rock and roll is dead man."

The term "Rock and Roll" is dead. Just like "Swing" is dead.

But rock and roll music has evolved into other things, like "Alternative" or "Indie" music.

Sugarcult, Snow Patrol, The All American Rejects, even Green Day (more so the music and less so the message) are all good, are rock and roll based, and are not dead.
10 posted on 10/20/2006 11:26:43 AM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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To: MadIvan

I agree with you 100%. My pre-teenage kids can't even listen to the new 'so-called' pop music out now. Everything is fusion music or teeny-pop that just does not have lasting appeal or a solid fan-core base.

Anyway, I just listen to my generation of music with a toouch of nistalgia and am good to go. :)


11 posted on 10/20/2006 11:30:56 AM PDT by Hayzo
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To: doodad

Thrash metal is not garbage. Using an example, Iced Earth "The glorious burden"

Also take what i say with a grain of salt, I am a Freeper metalhead.


12 posted on 10/20/2006 11:34:59 AM PDT by John Will
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To: MadIvan
But, last year "It's Hard Out There For A Pimp" won an Oscar. It must be a really good song, almost spiritual!!
13 posted on 10/20/2006 11:42:02 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Mohammad was a pedophile. Islam is a cult.)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
Can't say I've ever heard of it.

Regards, Ivan

14 posted on 10/20/2006 11:44:38 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: qam1
Rap music and the hip-hop culture is about 25 years younger than rock, and believe it or not, it’s happening there, too. Today’s children are now beginning to look askance at their parents for liking "old school" rap rather than today’s truly toxic stuff.

It's true - Wu-Tang Clan's "36 Chambers" was over 10 years ago. Older stuff like Big Daddy Kane and Eric B & Rakim sounds dated even to me - but still better than today's hip-hop.
15 posted on 10/20/2006 11:45:49 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: MadIvan
Can anyone remember a single from 5 years ago worth repeating?

Creed - My Own Prison...oh, damn, that was almost 10 years ago, already...damn...

16 posted on 10/20/2006 11:47:43 AM PDT by Andonius_99 (They [liberals] aren't humans, but rather a species of hairless retarded ape.)
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To: HaveHadEnough

Check out Social Distortion...


17 posted on 10/20/2006 11:49:01 AM PDT by Andonius_99 (They [liberals] aren't humans, but rather a species of hairless retarded ape.)
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To: qam1

My daughter (in her mid-twenties) and SIL went to the ACL Music Festival to see none other than Tom Petty (Or as I like to call them, TP and the HBs). A few years back, they went to SA to see AC/DC. Rock and Roll never really dies, it just gets recycled for a younger generation.


18 posted on 10/20/2006 11:52:19 AM PDT by wolfcreek (A personal attack is the reaction of an exhausted and/or disturbed mind.)
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To: hophead

There's a new The Who album coming out in a few weeks.


19 posted on 10/20/2006 11:56:40 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: qam1

>>>The horror was understandable, but the edge of paranoia creeped into the article. Hopkinson didn’t think the remark was innocent, but "confirmation" of a "conspiracy to destroy black boys," citing an author named Jawanza Kunjufu. (His book by that title is harsher. He calls it "genocide.") >>>

Let me get this straight. So the demoralization of the young black people in America is the fault of white people who held guns to young black people's head to force them to wear 'bling' and spout nasty, racist, sexist, disgusting lyrics to entice other youth's to copy and repeat? It's a WHITE PERSON CONSPIRACY??? But if a white person spoke out against this black "CULTURE", they would immediately be called a racist???

I've heard it all now.


20 posted on 10/20/2006 11:57:00 AM PDT by sandbar
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