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To: hripka
Tell me why murder is wrong, but don't use God in the explanation.

Over time the people in ancient societies learned that certain actions promote stable, healthy societies, and certain actions don't. Those that do not were later given the label immoral or, when integrated into the religion for enforcement, sin. Since we're all the same species, the same themes popped up in various different disconnected societies, even pre-dating the Bible.

How else is eating pork a sin in the OT and Quran? It was a health rule in that society that got put into the religion. The health aspect is gone now that we know how to properly preserve and cook pork and why it's important, but the moral prohibition still remains for those who believe.

165 posted on 10/19/2006 7:52:23 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

How else is eating pork a sin in the OT and Quran? It was a health rule in that society that got put into the religion. The health aspect is gone now that we know how to properly preserve and cook pork and why it's important, but the moral prohibition still remains for those who believe.

Oh??


 

NIV 1 Corinthians 8:4-8
 4.  So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that an idol is nothing at all in the world and that there is no God but one.
 5.  For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many "gods" and many "lords"), 
 6.  yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
 7.  But not everyone knows this. Some people are still so accustomed to idols that when they eat such food they think of it as having been sacrificed to an idol, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled.
 8.  But food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.


NIV 1 Corinthians 10:25-31
 25.  Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience,
 26.  for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it."
 27.  If some unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience.
 28.  But if anyone says to you, "This has been offered in sacrifice," then do not eat it, both for the sake of the man who told you and for conscience' sake --
 29.  the other man's conscience, I mean, not yours. For why should my freedom be judged by another's conscience?
 30.  If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for?
 31.  So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.


NIV Colossians 2:16
   Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.


NIV Hebrews 13:9
   Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings. It is good for our hearts to be strengthened by grace, not by ceremonial foods, which are of no value to those who eat them.


194 posted on 10/19/2006 10:07:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: antiRepublicrat
How else is eating pork a sin in the OT and Quran? It was a health rule in that society that got put into the religion. The health aspect is gone now that we know how to properly preserve and cook pork and why it's important, but the moral prohibition still remains for those who believe.

Oversimplification PING!

Hint 1:

How many years do the Levitical prohibitions on pork predate the Quran by?

Hint 2: Why didn't other nations see how well the dietary practices helped the Jews (e.g. Daniel) and emulate them?


294 posted on 10/19/2006 7:52:58 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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