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Envirowhacko's really hate the idea of launching nuclear things. They get all bent out of shape about the potential risks. IMNSHO, Nuclear is the only way to go. The advantages far outweigh the risks.
1 posted on 10/18/2006 8:53:42 AM PDT by Paradox
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the rover, which will be roughly the size of a compact car and equipped with 10 instruments.

Dang, that's big. Better go with the nuke, guys.

2 posted on 10/18/2006 8:54:58 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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Unfortunately the flat earth luddites will side with envirowhackos on this one.


3 posted on 10/18/2006 8:56:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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Nuke! All the way! Disco ball and lasers for the aliens..!


4 posted on 10/18/2006 8:57:10 AM PDT by gaijin
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I vote for one of these:


5 posted on 10/18/2006 8:57:14 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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The big question is "Will it be able to find the flag the Astronauts left?" as per S. Jackso-Lee.
6 posted on 10/18/2006 8:59:57 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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The North Koreans and Iranians will beat us there. After all, they only want plutonium for peaceful uses. They and Jimmy Carter told me so.
8 posted on 10/18/2006 9:03:46 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (I fear that we are the RINOs. The real Republican party is the big government Dem-lite party.)
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IMNSHO, Nuclear is the only way to go. The advantages far outweigh the risks.

It's not really a risk issue -- it's cost. Using an RTG pushes the total mission cost up by at least several tens of millions of dollars. We already know we can operate successfully using solar power on Mars; why not use what works and is cheap?

11 posted on 10/18/2006 9:07:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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Envirowhackos might not be the only ones questioning nuclear power for the probe. I just got done reading a space.com article, and it mentions how the choice of power source can affect the "go/no-go" areas for the probe.

Apparently the mission planners are telling the scientists that a nuke-powered rover will not be allowed to go to any potential water source, like a gulch! It is an issue of (Mars) planetary protection:

  1. If there were to be a malfunction with the probe, it would be stuck there for a long, long time;
  2. If the power source on the probe is nuclear, it could be a source of warmth for a long, long time;
  3. Probes must be assumed to have some non-zero amount of earth microbes that somehow snuck aboard to make it alive to Mars;
  4. Water, heat, microbes and time add together to form even more microbes (or Godzilla), and that's a contamination issue. While I think this is more of a "science contamination" issue than a "bad for Mars" contamination issue, that's still the concern.

14 posted on 10/18/2006 9:25:47 AM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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I live near KSC, NASA just had a public coment meeting on it here. Fortunately Brevard county is a high tech friendly area ( go figure) , and everyone understood that for them to launch, there was a .002% chance of plutonium dispersal, if the launch was command detonated and aborted. The community here supports the space program. We love the launches. We want more and bigger rockets going up.
Heck - you can't even put up an eco friendly wind farm in massatwoshits.


16 posted on 10/18/2006 10:02:12 AM PDT by Waverunner
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environmental regulations require the U.S. agency to give the general public a chance to weigh

That is not necessarily private citizens. Most of the testimony will be from other agencies and corporations including non-profits and NGOs.

20 posted on 10/18/2006 10:13:58 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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Since the envirowhackos are going to be overruled, I say let's overrule them with style: When the mission is finally launched the main rocket should be designed so that it can do an hour of aerobatic stunts over the Amazon rain forrest, fly up San Francisco/Berkeley way and do an hour of risky stunts over that bastion of envirowhackoism, then fly up to Washington state and do ten laps around the head of the only known pregnant snail darter in existence, before flying off to Mars.


23 posted on 10/18/2006 10:29:06 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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regulations require the U.S. agency to give the general public a chance to weigh in before making a final decision on the rover,

OK. I'm weighing in.

Do it.

25 posted on 10/18/2006 10:32:32 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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