[Southack]

"ask yourself, 'what would patton do?'"

Patton was a great military mind...and he was a winner...but be careful of what you ask.

Patton, after all, led a majority Protestant army into Rome, climbed the Vatican steps, knelt before the Pope, and kissed the Pope's ring.

Within a short time, Italy switched sides in the war, joining the U.S. to fight against Mussolini's fellow fascists from Germany.

Would you really have an American general today repeat that same hat trick by kneeling before, and then kissing the ring of, the leading religious figure(s) in Iraq?

Are you prepared to accept onto your side tomorrow people who are shooting at you today?

Because that's what Patton brilliantly did with Nazi Germany's ally Italy.

[TomasUSMC]

Are you prepared to accept onto your side tomorrow people who are shooting at you today?

Because that's what Patton brilliantly did with Nazi Germany's ally Italy.

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No, the Italians then and the moslems today are totally different. Back in WW2 there were millions of catholics and Italians in the US that loved America and were volunteering to fight for the USA. Can't say the same about the moslems today.

Also the Italians weren't fighting us on religious grounds, the moslems are.

ON the other hand, if the Saudis or the Jordanians or the Paks sent even one single brigade or battalion of uniformed troops to patrol the streets and join us in bullet magnet and IED magnet patrols, I'd be all for it.

But there ain't one single moslem from outside Iraq, in uniform patrolling with our Marines or Soldiers.

[Uncle Billy]

i agree with tomas. islamic religions in today's context are totally different from the shared judeo-christian background that shaped patton's act. for proof, see patton's quotes about what he thought of islam. it wasn't like he didn't realize what islam was and its potential for problems. in fact, patton and churchill both warned us of what was to come.