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| 10/17/06
| Ray Haynes
Posted on 10/17/2006 3:41:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Mr. Haynes is an Assembly member representing Riverside and Temecula. He serves on the Appropriations and Budget Committees.
To: NormsRevenge
CSAC is the parent association of a ton of other special interest, taxpayer funded non-profit associatons, many of which work behind the scenes (oh yeah, they get feedback from "stakeholders" which are primarily other government agencies, payroll associations, etc., looking to expand funding for upcoming fiscal years) to expand their funding. This of course is done "for the public interest" which I translate to "for the spineless socialist bureaucrats." But CSAC also has a special separate, private aspect (that I don't know much about) where they raise money. CSACs employees do not pay into Social Security but instead enjoy a San Bernardino County retirement program.
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posted on
10/17/2006 4:07:42 PM PDT
by
MonicaG
(Praying for our troops, leadership, Israel & IDF. Thanks to our veterans & their families.)
To: NormsRevenge
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posted on
10/17/2006 6:31:32 PM PDT
by
calcowgirl
("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
To: NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan; CounterCounterCulture
The real question in my mind is: Is it legal for cities to be spending money on political campaigns, albeit in this case, with a middle man to launder the money???
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posted on
10/17/2006 6:53:34 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(There are people in power who are truly evil.)
To: calcowgirl
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posted on
10/17/2006 8:15:34 PM PDT
by
CounterCounterCulture
(McClintock for Lt. Governor; Strickland for Controller; Poochigian for AG; Mountjoy for Senate)
To: Carry_Okie; marsh2; NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; dalereed; ...
Why can't this be legally challenged?
Why doesn't this thread get more play?
I hate to see it sink off the sidebar so I bumped it for further play. I hope others will do it too.
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posted on
10/18/2006 9:56:21 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
To: Carry_Okie
The real question in my mind is: Is it legal for cities to be spending money on political campaigns, albeit in this case, with a middle man to launder the money???
Carry, is this a rhetorical question?
It reminds me of the question... "Is it legal for public employee unions to contribute to political campaigns for the elected officials that will subsequently direct the policies that effect public employee benefits?" (ie: bribing the boss)
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posted on
10/18/2006 10:43:55 PM PDT
by
Paloma_55
(I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
To: NormsRevenge
How Jerry Brown could seriously be considered a viable candidate for Attorney General is beyond me. This guy is as anti-law and order as they come. Murderers get more sympathy out of him than the victims do. Governor moonbeam is unfit to hold any public office, let alone one associated with the criminal justice system.
As for public funds going to fund campaign issues, I think that's probably the tip of the iceberg.
Look at how far left our schools and universities have gone. Public funds? The far left agenda for pre-K through 12 is just as soiled, and paid for by public funds. The land conservencies get public fund grants to purchase as much land as they can, so John and Jane Doe can't. Now the scheme is so sordid that these conservancies are doing their damndest to make sure family land is not handed down to the heirs. No it should become part of a land trust before hand and be awarded to another socialist land grabber org. upon the death of the owner. I'll bet the ones in favor of this would be appauled if a church were to be the benefactor instead.
Perhaps what stinks about all this more than anything else, is that people who are supposed to be conservatives don't raise a whimper of an objection to all this. Of course I'm speaking of our elected officials.
The Santa Monica Land Conservency now manages (rules) the land clear up to La Cresenta, California. For those who don't know, that just east of Pasadena above Glendale. The inland movement of the Santa Monica Land Conservency should find it in Palm Springs in another ten to twenty years. Frankly, I object.
The price of housing is going up at an incredible rate in Southern California. Part of the reason is that the region is becoming land locked. With all the land grabs by these conservency groups, there's little left for developers anymore. Course we could commute from Barstow...
It is very frustrating to watch this nation go down.
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posted on
10/18/2006 10:51:30 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
To: Paloma_55
Carry, is this a rhetorical question? No, I think there's a legal distinction. To deny individual citizens to make campaign contributions is of course illegal. To deny them to hire an agent to do it is also legal. So the case for banning public employee union contributions is weaker than the case for banning public employee unions in the first place.
Cities on the other hand are neither citizens nor agents for hire.
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posted on
10/18/2006 10:58:42 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(There are people in power who are truly evil.)
To: NormsRevenge
CSAC is the California State Association of Counties (County governments.)
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posted on
10/19/2006 3:08:53 AM PDT
by
marsh2
To: NormsRevenge; SierraWasp
I forwarded this to the Humboldt Tax Payers League...
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posted on
10/19/2006 8:25:53 AM PDT
by
tubebender
(Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
To: SierraWasp; .38sw; 359Henrie; 1 FELLOW FREEPER; 101viking; 1IDVET; 1lawlady; ...
California freepers, take action, take to the streets and spread the word on what this man is.
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posted on
10/19/2006 9:00:07 AM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
To: SierraWasp; M. Peach; Maccabee-AJB; Madame X; MadMoo; Mad_Tom_Rackham; maid of orleans; ...
Attorney General Moonbeam?
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posted on
10/19/2006 9:02:08 AM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
To: SierraWasp
They say the money is nonpublic funds... How can an organization of governmental agencies have non-public funds?
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posted on
10/19/2006 9:05:13 AM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
To: SierraWasp
"Unless we vigilantly defend and preserve freedom, evil things like government trying to hijack elections, will continue to occur." And with moonbeam as AG, no prosecution will ever occur.
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posted on
10/19/2006 9:07:52 AM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
To: NormsRevenge
The question is: how did they get that money? How are the League, CSAC, and the CRA able to raise $3.2 million to contribute to a political campaign, when they a consortium of local government entities? They say the money is nonpublic funds, but how can that be? Are there private individuals whose favorite charities are lobbying organizations for government? Or, are these just our taxes, laundered through some complicated scheme, into the campaign? Excellent questions. A neutral journalist could win a Pulitzer Prize for answering them.
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posted on
10/19/2006 9:11:18 AM PDT
by
Mr. Jeeves
("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
To: editor-surveyor
Incredible as it may seem, Brown is a moderate Democrat, in comparison to the loony-left, aka Boxer, Murtha, Pelosi, etc.
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posted on
10/19/2006 9:17:06 AM PDT
by
veronica
(http://www.freerepublic.com/~starcmc/)
To: NormsRevenge
Assemblyman Haynes office can be reached at (951) 699-1113 in Temecula, California
or in the Capitol in Sacramento at (916) 319-2066
To subscribe to this Memorandum by e-mail, please send a request to:
Assemblymember.haynes@assembly.ca.gov
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posted on
10/19/2006 9:21:37 AM PDT
by
gc4nra
( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
To: NormsRevenge
Recently, in Californias election race, Oakland Mayor [and former Governor], Jerry Brown, called Chuck Poochigian an extremist because State Senator Poochigian believes in the Constitution. I thought we had ridden California from Brown Rot. Guess not. Vote for Poochigian for AG!
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posted on
10/19/2006 9:21:51 AM PDT
by
afnamvet
(It is what it is.)
To: veronica
"
Incredible as it may seem, Brown is a moderate Democrat, in comparison to the loony-left, aka Boxer, Murtha, Pelosi, etc." No, Jerry is no moderate, he is simply more subtile (and far more intelligent) than his co-horts.
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posted on
10/19/2006 9:22:10 AM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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