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PUBLISHERS SUE GOOGLE OVER BOOK SEARCH PROJECT
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| 19 October 2006
| Alorie Gilbert
Posted on 10/15/2006 8:27:38 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: FreedomCalls
Isn't it already settled case law that anyone can create an index to a copyrighted book and sell it without royalty payments to the publisher?
Quoting source material is also permitted, as well as doing research using someone elses' work. Charging for that service is an established fact on the market right now, so the 'crime' that Google is charged with - making money off of someone eles's copyrighted work is already part of industry standards.
The AAP should have simply settled for a horizon for publication; a horizon that was reasonable and in line with historical copyright law. The inflated concepts from Congress grossly violates the constitution and the SCOTUS will slam it down if it ends up on their docket.
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posted on
10/15/2006 9:24:15 PM PDT
by
kingu
(No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"anything on the internet is free, or, people have to follow copyright laws." Not "or".
And.
So we see the obvious conflict here....
To: Physicist
My understanding is that the searches aren't going to retrieve the full text of the work.That is correct. Here is an example of a search for the word "billions" from Cosmos by Carl Sagan using the very similar service from Amazon.
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10/15/2006 9:30:42 PM PDT
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
AFAIAC (as far as I am concerned) ANY book that is a required reference for ANY course in ANY educational course from elementary to doctoral SHOULD be available free online.
Aren't the authors simply in the game to further knowledge, or are they mercenaries?
/sarc
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posted on
10/15/2006 9:47:08 PM PDT
by
Don W
(Stoneage man survived thousands of years of bitter-cold ice. Modern man WILLsurvive global warming.)
To: Physicist
Usurped, how? They aren't distributing the contents of the works, simply returning search results. It's nothing a librarian couldn't in principle do over the phone; it's just faster and more efficient.
The question is one of permission. The publishers want Google to at least ask permission before scanning and uploading their intellectual property--and having the right to refuse and opt out. Google doesn't want to be bothered with that.
I think Google will lose this case, personally.
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posted on
10/15/2006 9:52:02 PM PDT
by
Antoninus
(Ruin a Democrat's day...help re-elect Rick Santorum.)
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
You're right - this is interesting to watch.
I have no dog in this fight in any real way. I am concerned about people not being compensated for their real work. However, I can't see any real way that distribution over the internet is going to be possible to halt, in the end. It really seems inevitable to me.
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posted on
10/15/2006 10:07:29 PM PDT
by
AFPhys
((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
To: Cacique
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posted on
10/15/2006 10:57:37 PM PDT
by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
To: Paleo Conservative
Did Patricia Schroeder start crying in the middle of saying that? :::sigh::: I'd forgotten Patsy Schroeder existed. I'll take a moment to savor that.
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10/15/2006 11:07:01 PM PDT
by
Dianna
To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
If anyone here wants to read some old classics, try the Gutenberg Project.
They have thousands of out of copyright books, including some pretty obscure things - everything from the Memoirs of Lafayette to Buddist Psalms to the Five Little Peppers. I keep it on my desktop.
http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page
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posted on
10/15/2006 11:24:40 PM PDT
by
I still care
("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I am wondering if someone can provide some reliable information as to what Google is facing with this? I can't believe they have bought this liability. Google/YouTube is seeking licensing from broadcasters to allow showing copyrighted material. Supposedly many of these agreements have already been locked up.
To: I still care
Thank you book marked.
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posted on
10/16/2006 3:50:01 AM PDT
by
HuntsvilleTxVeteran
("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
To: AFPhys
I am concerned about people not being compensated for their real work. However, I can't see any real way that distribution over the internet is going to be possible to halt, in the end. It really seems inevitable to me. Was doing research to help my wife write a valid paper for college class. Couldn't believe all of the websites offering to write a paper for a fee. What a racket.
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10/16/2006 4:52:58 AM PDT
by
MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
(Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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