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Aide says White House mocked evangelicals
The Guardian ^ | October 14, 2006 | Julian Borger

Posted on 10/15/2006 7:25:44 PM PDT by rakovsky

A former senior presidential aide has accused the Bush administration of using evangelical Christians to win votes but then privately ridiculing them once in office. The allegations by David Kuo, the former deputy director of the White House office of faith-based initiatives, come at a devastating time, when the administration is counting on born-again Christians to vote in sufficient numbers to save the Republicans' hold on Congress in the November elections.

In a book entitled Tempting Faith: an Inside Story of Political Seduction, to be published on Monday, Mr Kuo portrays the Bush White House's commitment to evangelical causes as little more than a cynical facade designed to win votes.

"National Christian leaders received hugs and smiles in person and then were dismissed behind their backs and described as ridiculous, out of control, and just plain goofy," Mr Kuo wrote, according to MSNBC television, which obtained an early copy of the book. In particular, he quotes Karl Rove, the president's long-serving political adviser and mentor, as describing evangelical Christians as "nuts".

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: bush; christians; davidkuo; evangelicals; kuo
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To: BurrOh
ROVE is the jerk who is responsible for Bush's idiotic border and illegal alien policies - philosophies at variance with the views of most Americans, the overwhelming majority of his own party and in total agreement with the Dems.

Where was Rove when Bush nominated his personal attorney for Supreme Court Justice? Where was Rove when Bush came out and defenced to Dubai Port Deal? Where was Rove when Bush nominated anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-illegal alien, and pro-affiramtive action Alberto Gonzales/
101 posted on 10/15/2006 8:39:26 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: LikeLight

Right! And he is OUR "magnificant bastard"! So there!


102 posted on 10/15/2006 8:41:00 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Suzy Quzy

I was referring to the DemonRat powerbrokers and their pathetic attempts to sway my vote.


103 posted on 10/15/2006 8:47:00 PM PDT by BurrOh (Kerry, honored member of War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City)
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To: rakovsky
Okay this is the last straw. This Christian is gonna vote a Democratic ticket.[sarc]

This is simply more election time tripe from the Guardian "of Socialism." This Christian wouldn't vote for a Democrat, or a Libertarian, if I ran as one.

104 posted on 10/15/2006 8:47:47 PM PDT by Muleteam1
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To: avacado

"BS! Bush has opened up monies for faith based organizations"

Really? How much in Oklahoma? And be careful and don't look like a fool in your answer.


105 posted on 10/15/2006 8:49:40 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: cambodia; Suzy Quzy

Well, there you go.
nuff said.

Thanks, cambodia.


106 posted on 10/15/2006 8:51:08 PM PDT by BurrOh (Kerry, honored member of War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City)
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To: rakovsky
I don't see why he would make it up, but maybe you have other ideas?

Because this flies in the face of elementary logic and reason.

In a book entitled Tempting Faith: an Inside Story of Political Seduction, to be published on Monday, Mr Kuo portrays the Bush White House's commitment to evangelical causes as little more than a cynical facade designed to win votes.

If this is true, then I have to believe that GW's faith and his religious beliefs are just a phony act to win votes. That his beliefs are nothing but lies and it's all an act to win elections, in other words, the President is a liar and manipulator. His belief in the right to life is another lie. It's all a lie concocted by Karl Rove to win votes.

However, the release of a book of this nature just a couple of weeks before the mid-term elections suggests a purpose to suppress the Christian vote is the motive.

Well, I'm inclined to believe that David Kuos compromises his honesty at a high price - and that is selling his book and generating the greatest impact on the election by releasing it 2 weeks before the mid-term elections and by trying to destroy the Republicans' chance to retain control of Congress. If he was honest, he would have released this book long before the elections.

And I think it's fair to add this part of the article:

President George Bush launched the office of faith-based initiatives soon after taking office in 2001, depicting it as the embodiment of his philosophy of "compassionate conservatism". However, Mr Kuo alleges that between 2002 and 2004 it used taxpayers' money to organise religious conferences in 20 districts where embattled Republican candidates were trying to mobilise Christian supporters. Efforts were made to disguise the political nature of the conferences.

The White House rejected the claims. A White House spokesman, Tony Snow, said Mr Kuo had previously expressed support for the president's policies. "When David Kuo left the White House, he sent the president a very warm letter talking about how wonderful it was," he said.

Mr Snow also said Mr Rove had denied calling evangelical Christians "nuts".

"Karl made the same point I did, which is: these are my friends; I don't talk about them like that," he said.

Jim Towey, Mr Kuo's former boss at the office of faith-based initiatives, told the Los Angeles Times: "I had marching orders from the president to keep the faith-based initiative non-political, and I did."


107 posted on 10/15/2006 8:51:35 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: rakovsky

Just a few days ago a long time friend of mine wrote me about her husband and another high up leader of a certain large Christian denomination were called to White House to meet with Pres. Bush. They had a long meeting with him with it ending with the President asking them to hold hands and pray for the country. My friend asked that the news people not get hold of any specific information because they would make something of it that need not be said.

I certainly disagree with this article.


108 posted on 10/15/2006 8:52:30 PM PDT by native texan
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To: rakovsky

I strongly question his timing.


109 posted on 10/15/2006 8:52:59 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
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To: rakovsky
Interesting choice of screen name. Not many Freepers take Marxist revolutionaries as namesakes.

What is your opinion of Karl Rove?

Sharp fella. A canny strategerist who gives the 'Rats big wedgies one election after another, which is good. It's a pleasure watching Rove outmaneuver the socialists.

...but maybe you have other ideas?

My main idea at the moment is that you're a troll who has Zotty things in his future.

Back in May, after signing up, you posted a handful of comments in which you defended treason, attempted to deny the anti-Americanism of the anti-globalization crowd, and advocated that we go out and buy Citgo oil. Now, after five months of silence, you post this. It's as if you stumbled across the article, saw an opportunity to sow some division before the election, and scurried back over here to post it.

Trolling the Net to advance the cause of "social justice", I suppose. Very impressive praxis, comrade.

Buh bye!

110 posted on 10/15/2006 8:53:45 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: plain talk; balch3
I have no reason to believe this report at this particular point in time close to an election. So I outright dismiss it.

Timing is amazing, isn't it?

111 posted on 10/15/2006 8:54:37 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: hosepipe

I thought that was DuPont Circle.


112 posted on 10/15/2006 8:55:28 PM PDT by Young Scholar
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To: Yardstick; rakovsky
Hmmm. Rakovsky . . . rakovsky . . . Where have I heard that name before?
113 posted on 10/15/2006 8:58:06 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: rakovsky

Julian Borger hears accounts of troops razing houses to prevent refugees going back home, The Guardian (London)

Julian Borger, in his July 17, 2003 article "The spies who pushed for war," published by the Guardian/UK

Annals of Crony Capitalism—Aftermath of Katrina: Bush team tries to pin blame on local officials
By Julian Borger, for The Guardian

114 posted on 10/15/2006 9:00:14 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: rakovsky
"I don't see why he would make it up, but maybe you have other ideas?"

Uh, he's utterly unknown to the public and the MSM can be counted on to give him much face time so as to help him $ell $cad$ of book$ for $$$$$trictly noble rea$on$?

115 posted on 10/15/2006 9:01:57 PM PDT by cookcounty (Coach Hastert: Good news! Your insurance DOES cover spine implants.)
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To: Natural Law

"The Republican Party treats the Evangelicals like the Democratic Party treats Blacks."

Sad but true.


116 posted on 10/15/2006 9:02:49 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: rakovsky

This guy has an agenda. Say anything he can to hurt the GOP.

He looked sneaky to me.


117 posted on 10/15/2006 9:02:53 PM PDT by fabriclady
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To: JCEccles; rakovsky

I hear the sound of tiny paws padding this way. Soon there will be a...

Rakovsky Kabobsky!


118 posted on 10/15/2006 9:06:18 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: You Dirty Rats
When someone new signs on and says something that is liked, they are greeted with warm welcomes, ooh's and ahh's for their brilliant choice of joining the ranks at FR.... But, if someone joins and makes a statement that is not liked [ by the ever so opened minded ranks here ], that person is immediately deemed a troll.

Now, I don't know if sally-whatever is a troll or not, but I do see pattern here. Both in behavior and thought. Which is why I have growing doubts about FR and what it really is. Certainly, it has evolved into anything but the [long awaited] bastion of free thought it was touted to be so long ago.

Which is sad.

119 posted on 10/15/2006 9:08:04 PM PDT by softengine ("Conscience is the root of all true courage..")
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To: Yardstick; rakovsky

Why hasn't Comrade Rakovsky, the uber troll, been shown the door yet?


120 posted on 10/15/2006 9:10:28 PM PDT by JCEccles
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