Posted on 10/15/2006 1:21:06 PM PDT by US Navy guy
THE Chinese are openly debating "regime change" in Pyongyang after last week's nuclear test by their confrontational neighbour.
Diplomats in Beijing said at the weekend that China and all the major US allies believed North Korea's claim that it had detonated a nuclear device. US director of national intelligence John Negroponte circulated a report that radiation had been detected at a site not far from the Chinese border.
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The South Koreans care about their sovereignty. Would you want our borders thrown wide open to commies? We don't have enough problems with the ones in office now.
Has anybody seen the clip of the poor children in North Korea?
Really sad
http://www.cafenetamerica.com
"and the new gov't that get's installed, is it a puppet regime of China?"
probably, but that would not stop much closer economic ties with ROK and literally ANY system in DPRK would be better than the one currently there.
A man who knows his way there can defy all.. meaning they are securing their skins in case of a coup
bttt
> As nice as it would be to get rid of Chia head, I'm not sure we need Chinese expansion to the Korean penninsula. <
Well, I'd say we "need" Chinese expansion a lot more than we need a North Korean arms industry that supplies suitcase nukes to Al Qaeda.
Or to coin a phrase, The Lesser of Two Evils.
You got a better solution? Want to commit some US troops?
No doubt, but it'll at least be a more pragmatic and less psychotic one than Kim's.
Apparently you have no children or don't care a bit about their futures. No I don't want to send troops in but I'm not a pathetic China apologist either.
This is a very interesting article, with information i had not seen anywhere else. some pieces
"The Chinese made an intense political study of the Romanian revolution and even questioned president Ion Iliescu, who took over, about how it was done and what roles were played by the KGB and by Russia."
also the comments detailing at least 3 insurrections/coup attempts inside DPRK are something I had not seen elsewhere.
Wonder what the Japanese think about this?
Sounds good to me. You must look 20-30 years out to see the benefit here. Koreans are more xenophobic than...they are the most xenophobic people on earth, and historically extremely suspicious of China and Japan.
A Chinese backed coup or better a Chinese invasion, would leave behind a North Korea that the Chinese wouldn't want to have. Any communist government they set up would likely come unglued leading to unification on the South Korean model. The Chinese are not all that worried about the South Koreans. If not for the thorn that NK continually sticks in our eye, China would prefer a stable South Korea on its border, to nut-boy flinging nukes.
(Pronunciation Key)bolt·hole Listen: [ blthl ]
n.
A hole through which to bolt: found a bolthole in the fencing.
A place affording escape: "The book offered exotic escape, but one could imagine more alluring boltholes than an ascetic all-male community" (Anthony Burgess).
Useful fools propaganda... since when has a commie state stabbed another in the back?
"some of the North Korean elite are seeking their boltholes in China."
Heh. But can they distinguish them from a hole in the ground?
China wants to be a benign Asian power more interested in trade surpluses and a healthy than in proping up an idiot like Kim on its border who is gathering international condemnation by the box full. China doesn't swell with joy at the prospect of having its major cities disappear in a nuclear cloud.
They all suffer from jealousy, so one may have tripped another from time to time.
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