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China may back coup against Kim
The Sunday Times ^ | October 16, 2006 | Michael Sheridan

Posted on 10/15/2006 1:21:06 PM PDT by US Navy guy

THE Chinese are openly debating "regime change" in Pyongyang after last week's nuclear test by their confrontational neighbour.

Diplomats in Beijing said at the weekend that China and all the major US allies believed North Korea's claim that it had detonated a nuclear device. US director of national intelligence John Negroponte circulated a report that radiation had been detected at a site not far from the Chinese border.

(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: badhair; bolthole; china; northkorea
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To: Sir Gawain

The South Koreans care about their sovereignty. Would you want our borders thrown wide open to commies? We don't have enough problems with the ones in office now.


21 posted on 10/15/2006 1:29:03 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: All

Has anybody seen the clip of the poor children in North Korea?

Really sad

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22 posted on 10/15/2006 1:29:33 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (If you dont vote on election day, then who are you electing?)
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To: oceanview

"and the new gov't that get's installed, is it a puppet regime of China?"

probably, but that would not stop much closer economic ties with ROK and literally ANY system in DPRK would be better than the one currently there.


23 posted on 10/15/2006 1:29:36 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Hawthorn

A man who knows his way there can defy all.. meaning they are securing their skins in case of a coup


24 posted on 10/15/2006 1:30:31 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: ivy

bttt


25 posted on 10/15/2006 1:30:54 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: cripplecreek

> As nice as it would be to get rid of Chia head, I'm not sure we need Chinese expansion to the Korean penninsula. <

Well, I'd say we "need" Chinese expansion a lot more than we need a North Korean arms industry that supplies suitcase nukes to Al Qaeda.

Or to coin a phrase, The Lesser of Two Evils.


26 posted on 10/15/2006 1:32:25 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: cripplecreek

You got a better solution? Want to commit some US troops?


27 posted on 10/15/2006 1:32:43 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: oceanview

No doubt, but it'll at least be a more pragmatic and less psychotic one than Kim's.


28 posted on 10/15/2006 1:33:41 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (BBC-Buttheaded Bolshevik Communists)
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To: Sir Gawain

Apparently you have no children or don't care a bit about their futures. No I don't want to send troops in but I'm not a pathetic China apologist either.


29 posted on 10/15/2006 1:34:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: US Navy guy

This is a very interesting article, with information i had not seen anywhere else. some pieces

"The Chinese made an intense political study of the Romanian revolution and even questioned president Ion Iliescu, who took over, about how it was done and what roles were played by the KGB and by Russia."

also the comments detailing at least 3 insurrections/coup attempts inside DPRK are something I had not seen elsewhere.


30 posted on 10/15/2006 1:35:00 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Sir Gawain

Wonder what the Japanese think about this?


31 posted on 10/15/2006 1:36:04 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: US Navy guy
Works for me too. Better Chineese puppet goverment. Anyway Chineese may give them few tips on economy recovery Anyhow, look just at this army posters of NorthKorea Army. They are from 2003: http://realpolitik.us/archives/dprkposters/nkoreapostersindex.html Communists are gone mad...
32 posted on 10/15/2006 1:37:19 PM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org and www.kosovo.net Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: shield
Red China needs someone to carry the Marxist banner. I suspect when communist hierarchy is satisfied that their business sector has progressed to their satisfaction, they will purge the "capitalists" and take it over. Another "Great Leap Forward" or something to the effect..
33 posted on 10/15/2006 1:48:26 PM PDT by oyez ( The older I get, the better I was.)
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To: cripplecreek
As nice as it would be to get rid of Chia head, I'm not sure we need Chinese expansion to the Korean penninsula.

Sounds good to me. You must look 20-30 years out to see the benefit here. Koreans are more xenophobic than...they are the most xenophobic people on earth, and historically extremely suspicious of China and Japan.

A Chinese backed coup or better a Chinese invasion, would leave behind a North Korea that the Chinese wouldn't want to have. Any communist government they set up would likely come unglued leading to unification on the South Korean model. The Chinese are not all that worried about the South Koreans. If not for the thorn that NK continually sticks in our eye, China would prefer a stable South Korea on its border, to nut-boy flinging nukes.

34 posted on 10/15/2006 1:55:46 PM PDT by SampleMan (Do not dispute the peacefulness of Islam, so as not to send Muslims into violent outrage.)
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To: Hawthorn

(Pronunciation Key)bolt·hole Listen: [ blthl ]
n.


A hole through which to bolt: found a bolthole in the fencing.

A place affording escape: "The book offered exotic escape, but one could imagine more alluring boltholes than an ascetic all-male community" (Anthony Burgess).


35 posted on 10/15/2006 2:02:08 PM PDT by highpockets
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To: US Navy guy

Useful fools propaganda... since when has a commie state stabbed another in the back?


36 posted on 10/15/2006 2:03:38 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: US Navy guy

"some of the North Korean elite are seeking their boltholes in China."


Heh. But can they distinguish them from a hole in the ground?


37 posted on 10/15/2006 2:09:32 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: MaineVoter2002

China wants to be a benign Asian power more interested in trade surpluses and a healthy than in proping up an idiot like Kim on its border who is gathering international condemnation by the box full. China doesn't swell with joy at the prospect of having its major cities disappear in a nuclear cloud.


38 posted on 10/15/2006 2:14:36 PM PDT by middie
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To: US Navy guy
All just window dressing for our consumption. Chi-coms have a long plan that includes Lil Kim.
39 posted on 10/15/2006 2:18:41 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: johnny7
since when has a commie state stabbed another in the back?

They all suffer from jealousy, so one may have tripped another from time to time.

40 posted on 10/15/2006 2:26:27 PM PDT by oyez ( The older I get, the better I was.)
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