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Angelides could dash Dems' hopes California's Dems might not fare well
Inside Bay Area ^ | Oct. 14, 2006 | Steven Harmon

Posted on 10/14/2006 1:29:29 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Across the country, Republicans are taking a beating: President Bush is at historic lows in public opinion polls, the war in Iraq has lost favor with voters, and the party is dealing with the latest in a series of ethics scandals that have Republicans staring at the prospects of losing control of Congress.

Yet, oddly enough, in California it may be Democrats who have the most reason to fear Election Day. Not only does their gubernatorial candidate, Phil Angelides, trail Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger heavily in the polls, but there is growing concern that if Angelides does not inspire Democrats to vote, low party turnout could seal the fate of other vulnerable Democrats — and even left-leaning ballot propositions.

Recent polls have shown Republicans have a shot at winning a number of "down-ballot" races, including secretary of state, insurance commissionerand even lieutenant governor, where each candidate has put himself in position to take advantage of any Schwarzenegger coattail effect.

Nonetheless, Democrats remain confident that the national tide will rescue Angelides and other statewide candidates. Democrats would not necessarily come out to vote for Angelides, but against Republicans. And, they hope, disillusioned Republicans may stay home.

A survey last month by the Public Policy Institute of California — taken before the Congressional page scandal — showed that 44 percent of Republicans lack enthusiasm about voting, compared with 38 percent of Democrats.

(Excerpt) Read more at insidebayarea.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: angelides; calgov2006; california; drivebymedia; elections; msm; rush; schwarzenegger
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To: doodlelady; Mojave

Obviously what Mojave is hoping it that most people here didn't watch Arnold on the Leno show and won't notice that he is making things up, trying to divide conservatives, turn them against Arnold and Republicans, to help Angelides and the Dems take over CA.

Mojave is a prime example of a DICC.


DICC = Democrat in Conservative's Clothing.


41 posted on 10/14/2006 4:51:47 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
DICC = Democrat in Conservative's Clothing.

You're his apologist, not I.

42 posted on 10/14/2006 4:54:25 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

I'll take your non-response as NO ~
you didn't see the Leno show.


43 posted on 10/14/2006 4:59:15 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Mojave; All

Beware of DICC-s.

DICC = Democrat in Conservative's Clothing.

The way to recognize DICCs:


"The premise follows a scheme previously found most often on talk radio programs: a liberal activist calls a conservative radio host, such as Rush Limbaugh or Laura Ingraham, and delivers the line: “I’ve been voting Republican for 30 years, but I’ve finally had it and I’m not voting this year.” Or my favorite: “I’m a Reagan Republican, but I’m fed up and voting for John Kerry.” (Because that is what Reagan Republicans would do, vote for John Kerry.) At this point, the host usually asks a couple of questions and it becomes painfully obvious that the supposed Reagan Republican has probably never voted for anyone right of Michael Dukakis.

The intentions are clear: the caller hopes to make it appear as though there is already a large uprising of conservatives who are rebelling against GOP candidates, and thus, wishes to incite other Republicans to pick up the same attitude and pass it along, leading to the Democrat becoming more competitive. The successes of such a strategy on voting habits are unclear, especially given that the conservative radio host often refutes the caller’s talking points.

But the pretend-conservative act is being carried onto a whole new playing field, one that has become wildly influential over the past few years and one that does not stand to be instantly recognized as a fake. That playing field is the blogosphere, which is then used in conjunction with massive e-mailings to “spread the word” (as one e-mailer insisted I do to my readers/e-mail list) to other conservatives.

The concept is the same: the blog or e-mail claims, first, that the said writer has been a conservative for years and that they have “had it with Republicans.” They then point to an issue that conservatives would likely be upset about such as excessive spending, immigration, or the expansion of government. Their supposed rage over the issue has convinced them to either not show up to vote in 2006, or, in order to really show Republicans, vote for the Democrat instead. "



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44 posted on 10/14/2006 5:02:09 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
Beware of DICC-s.

For example:


45 posted on 10/14/2006 5:08:40 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Mojave

Sign up date: Oct. 13, 2005

All you EVER do, is bash Republicans.

Perfect DICC profile.


See my post 44.


46 posted on 10/14/2006 5:11:27 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
GET OUT AN VOTE STRAIGHT REPUBLICAN TICKET.

I live in Connecticut, and will vote for Lieberman since the Republican, Alan Schlesinger, will get about 10% of the vote. No Ned Lamont!

47 posted on 10/14/2006 5:13:53 PM PDT by Koblenz (Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
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To: FairOpinion

You're the apologist for the Rat agenda, not I.


48 posted on 10/14/2006 5:14:22 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Koblenz

You have the exception to the rule.


49 posted on 10/14/2006 5:14:58 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Mojave

So why are you trying to help Angelides get elected?


50 posted on 10/14/2006 5:15:41 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

Excellent reminder, post #44 ~ thank you ~

Another way to spot a DICC is watch they way they contraDICCt
McClintock's constant, earnest plea
for solid solidarity.


51 posted on 10/14/2006 5:18:02 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: doodlelady
Comparing Bush to an Oscar was a COMPLIMENT! Anyone who actually watched could see it was NOT a bash.

I saw it--it was anything but a compliment.
He clearly wants to put as much distance as possible away from himself and President Bush.
BTW, he said "link", not "compare.

"To link me to George Bush is like linking me to an Oscar. That's ridiculous."

52 posted on 10/14/2006 5:26:26 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

You did not see the same show then.

It was a brilliant subterfuge, and anyone who knows Arnold's unabashed support of our troops, their mission and their goals to win and come home, knows EXACTLY what he meant.


53 posted on 10/14/2006 5:32:20 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: doodlelady

Keep rewriting history, DL.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=arnold+leno+iraq+oscar


54 posted on 10/14/2006 5:36:08 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: FairOpinion
Why do you want aother term for Feinstein?


55 posted on 10/14/2006 5:37:07 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: calcowgirl
LOL

Arnold says the US must find a "sensible way to get out of Iraq."

That's Arnoldspeak for WIN !

56 posted on 10/14/2006 5:43:31 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: doodlelady
Arnold says the US must find a "sensible way to get out of Iraq."

Sounds like Ted Kennedy.

57 posted on 10/14/2006 5:45:05 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: calcowgirl
Its never going to be 100%. About 10% of voters in either party or independents are going to cross lines to vote the candidate, not the party. By and large though, the days of ticket-splitting appear to be behind us.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

58 posted on 10/14/2006 5:46:57 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl
"Does President Bush ever learn? His chip-on-the-shoulder address to the United Nations last week was yet another missed opportunity to turn the page and start regaining the genuine support of the world community for a sensible policy on Iraq."
--Ted Kennedy

Sounds familiar.

59 posted on 10/14/2006 5:49:27 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: FairOpinion
Sign up date: Oct. 13, 2005

His sign-up date is irrelevant. He's one of my favorite FReepers.

60 posted on 10/14/2006 5:54:04 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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