Keep Darwin's 'lies' out of Polish schools: education official

AFP via Yahoo! News ^ | October 14, 2006

[Oberon]

I have yet to meet one on this thread.

Truly, neither have I, that I know of. Then again, it's hard to tell what people take on faith simply on the bases of a Freeper thread. =]

[FreedomProtector]

If there were no God, there would be no atheists.

[Dimensio]

I believe that your claim is a non-sequitur.

[antiRepublicrat]

If there were no God, there would be no atheists.

??

[FreedomProtector]

How do you know that to be true?

[VadeRetro]

When I first googled "'daveloneranger' + 'asshole'" all I got was this. It doesn't involve me, so I was confused.

I'm confused, too. I can't believe there aren't a lot more of those.

[js1138]

Of course, I've had more experience with you now to know you're not quite the knight in shining armor I thought you were...

I'm no knight in shining armor, but I have eight years on the forum, 41,000 posts with no warnings or suspensions. You, are the second of your kind to attempt taking over the science threads and running them into the muck.

In a year or two, after you've finished "witnessing," you will be gone, and FR will be able to breathe again. You and your tribe that even you show public contempt for.

[FreedomProtector]

"If there were no God, there would be no atheists."

"??"


....if you still don't get it click here

[js1138]

I'm confused, too. I can't believe there aren't a lot more of those.

There are, just not using the exact word. Not everyone has an ear for the precision application of vulgarity. Two or three well chosen instances in 41,000 posts is about right.

But then not all of his fans are bright enough to notice that he called his own followers stupid to their face.

[antiRepublicrat]

"If there were no God, there would be no atheists."

If there were only atheists, there would be no god.

[FreedomProtector]

Atheists owe their very existence to God.

[VadeRetro]

In a year or two, after you've finished "witnessing," you will be gone, and FR will be able to breathe again. You and your tribe that even you show public contempt for.

Maybe it's just the phase of the Moon, but I no longer have any confidence of such things.

[Dimensio]

How do you know that to be true?

There appears to be no logical connection between your conditional statement and predicted result. If such a logical connect exists, you should explain it.

[Dimensio]

Atheists owe their very existence to God.

You are assuming your conclusion in stating your claim. This is logically invalid.

[antiRepublicrat]

Atheists owe their very existence to God.

What god? Which god?

[FreedomProtector]

"You are assuming your conclusion in stating your claim. This is logically invalid."

Incorrect. It is logically valid. I am simply stating the conclusion before stating the presupposition.


....All things origniate from God and come from God.

Atheists are part of all things.

Therefore atheists originate from God.

Since all things origniate from God, if there was no God, there would be no atheists as atheists are part of all things.


Evolutionists do the exact same thing--they state conclusions that depend on their presuppositions.

[Stultis]

It does not take a supernatural creator to take matter and organize it in such a way that it performs specific functions.

No, it doesn't. But that's because, simply by being matter, it already has certain properties, and will behave in some ways and not in others, and is therefore already "organize[d] in such a way that it performs specific functions".

Once again, your definition of ID defines nothing because it includes everything. And not just everything that is, but everything that possibly could be in any intelligible universe. It is therefore completely vacuous and utterly useless.

[js1138]

Judging from what the assault on IQ has done to fund raising, FR may not be the same in two years. Moderating certainly has changed in the last year.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1011737/posts?page=363#363

[sergey1973]

The call to keep Darwin out of public schools is clearly an example of a totalitarian mindset. Surely, there are plenty of those educational and scientific ideologues (including here in US) who treat Darwin theory as sacred, unquestionable and beyond any criticism. Both of these types are mind censors.

I'm all for teaching Darwin in schools alongside other theories that are critical of Darwin (i.e. Intelligent Design, Creationism, etc.). The freedom of intellectual inquiry is the prerequisite of successfull and healthy society.

[FreedomProtector]

"Atheists owe their very existence to God.
What god? Which god?"



IN THE beginning [before all time] was the Word [Jesus Christ], and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself.

He was present originally with God.

All things were made and came into existence through Him; and without Him was not even one thing made that has come into being.

In Him was Life, and the Life was the Light of men.

And the Light shines on in the darkness, for the darkness has never overpowered it [put it out or absorbed it or appropriated it, and is unreceptive to it].

John 1:1-5