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'The US housing bubble will disappear'
in2perspective ^ | September 11, 2006 | Laurie Osborne

Posted on 10/14/2006 9:48:44 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

'The US housing bubble will disappear'

By Laurie Osborne, Editor

Published 11th Sep 2006

That the US housing bubble will disappear someday is a certainty. That it will blow up catastrophically is a fair bet, warns The Daily Reckoning's Bill Bonner.

Observing recent statistics, Bonner calls the evidence "formidable".

The total value of residential property in developed countries rose by more than $30 trillion, to $70 trillion, over the past five years – eclipsing the combined GDPs of those nations.

Consumer spending and residential construction have accounted for 90 percent of the total growth in the American GDP over the last four years, and more than 40 percent of all private-sector jobs created since 2001 have been in housing-related sectors, including construction and mortgage brokering.

America made some of its biggest gains this past year, with average prices of homes rising 12.5% in the year and prices in Florida, California, Nevada, Hawaii, Maryland and Washington, DC, rising more than 20 percent, while in Palm Beach County, Florida, it rose over 35%. Sales of existing homes in the US set a new high at 7.18 million in April.

Some foreign countries showed bigger gains than the US in the last year, with prices up by 23.6 percent in South Africa, 19 percent in Hong Kong and over 15 percent in Spain and France. But average house prices have actually fallen by 7% in Australia since 2003; Sydney's bubblicious prices have plunged by 16%. In Britain, sales have contracted by a third from last year and have also slowed down in Ireland, the Netherlands and New Zealand. In Britain and Australia, these declines followed what were only very modest interest rate increases.

23 percent of all American houses bought last year were for investment and in Miami, one speculation hot spot, 70% of condo buyers are investors/speculators.

Last year, 42 percent of America's first-time buyers – and 25 percent of all buyers – put no money down.

In California, 60 percent of all new mortgages this year are interest-only or negative-amortization.

House prices in relation to rent have hit all-time highs in the US, Britain, Australia, New Zealand, France, Spain, the Netherlands, Ireland and Belgium. In the US, the ratio is 35 percent above its 1975-2000 average. The price to rent ratio is a cardinal indicator of over valuation.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bubble; bubblebrigade; depression; despair; doom; dustbowl; eeyore; goldpimpalert; goregloomgutless; grapesofwrath; housingbubble; joebtfsplk; realestate
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To: GodGunsGuts
Thanks for the courtesy of pinging me when you link my posting history.

The original question was "why you're repeatedly posting articles..."

Please point to one article I've posted about real estate.

Thanks. I'm standing by for your retraction.

101 posted on 10/14/2006 11:59:44 AM PDT by Fan of Fiat
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To: GodGunsGuts

As of today, are you registered to vote in the Democrat party?


102 posted on 10/14/2006 11:59:53 AM PDT by Patriot_from_CA (You know television is getting bad when the best show on any channel is "Sabado Gigante.")
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To: GodGunsGuts
Where?
103 posted on 10/14/2006 12:00:35 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts.)
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To: defenderSD

I'm predicting a drop in price that will bring real estate back into line with inflation and GDP. That's a huge drop no matter which way you slice it. Sure some areas will be spared the carnage, but overall we are talking a huge hit to both real estate and the larger economy.


104 posted on 10/14/2006 12:02:23 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Fan of Fiat; GodGunsGuts

I think GGG made a mistake there. He posted a generic reference link that points to each person's own posts based on your login ID. So for example, when I click that same link at #94 it takes me to my posts.


105 posted on 10/14/2006 12:02:42 PM PDT by Patriot_from_CA (You know television is getting bad when the best show on any channel is "Sabado Gigante.")
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To: Patriot_from_CA
Sorry, I have no interest in joining the ranks of your fellow demorats. You might have better luck with my next-door neighbor.
106 posted on 10/14/2006 12:03:48 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Please be more specific. What do you mean by "a drop in price that will bring real estate back into line with inflation and GDP."? I'm not sure what you're saying there.


107 posted on 10/14/2006 12:04:36 PM PDT by defenderSD (The concept of national martyrdom, combined with nuclear weapons, is extremely dangerous.)
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To: defenderSD
I'm not sure what you're saying there.

That's because it's deliberately-vague gibberish.

108 posted on 10/14/2006 12:05:49 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: defenderSD

109 posted on 10/14/2006 12:06:36 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: defenderSD

110 posted on 10/14/2006 12:09:14 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: defenderSD
Once we can reduce our spending in Iraq and bring the federal deficit down even more

I don't think the political will is there to decrease spending regardless of what happens in Iraq. I'm not sure what it will take, higher long term rates perhaps. Long term rates are currently suppressed because of our trade deficit, but that effect (foreigners buying 10 year treasuries with their extra dollars) and/or the trade deficit won't last forever.

111 posted on 10/14/2006 12:09:36 PM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: defenderSD

112 posted on 10/14/2006 12:10:29 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

"Consumer spending and residential construction have accounted for 90 percent of the total growth in the American GDP over the last four years,"

Ok, how does that compare to some other four year period? How much of each of the two?

But who I am, nothing to see here, believe all the quotes that fit your agenda....


113 posted on 10/14/2006 12:10:48 PM PDT by dakine
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To: GodGunsGuts

In the 3rd Quarter 2006, the number of sales, price, and price per square foot of New York City condos rose unexpectedly.


114 posted on 10/14/2006 12:10:57 PM PDT by montag813
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To: defenderSD

115 posted on 10/14/2006 12:13:45 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
We already discussed that chart. I said it shows a reallocation of capital by the free market system away from manufacturing and farming into real estate, and that is caused by the increasing productivity of manufacturing capital and agricultural capital. I don't recall that you responded to this statement. If you want to debate with folks like us you're going to need to be specific and state your arguments precisely.

If you were to take a look at the market value of consumer audio electronics owned by individuals, guess what, you'll see that the exact opposite has happened. The ratio of the value of consumer audio electronics to GDP has collapsed in the last 30 years. I can buy a stereo receiver today for one third the price in real dollars that a receiver cost in 1976, and it's a much better product than 30 years ago. Product sectors do not have to maintain a steady ratio of price to GDP. That is not happening in many sectors. Sectors like Consumer electronics and long-distance telephone service have been collapsing in price while real estate and health care have been rising steadily. Much of this is caused by advancing technology.

116 posted on 10/14/2006 12:16:08 PM PDT by defenderSD (The concept of national martyrdom, combined with nuclear weapons, is extremely dangerous.)
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To: dakine
Perhaps this will help:


117 posted on 10/14/2006 12:17:13 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

How about a chart of household assets as % of GDP?


118 posted on 10/14/2006 12:20:13 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

One of the biggest reasons why we've seen a big increase in real estate prices is because there is stricly limited supply of real estate in good suburban metro areas. As the saying goes, they're not making any more land. The supply of computers, electronics, telephone service, and cars keeps increasing steadly but real estate close to cities has a limited supply so it has been rising in price. The price increases then generate some speculative excess increases in price that you see in every market from time to time, and some people will get nailed by speculating in housing. It happpens every day in the stock market. But you will not see a collapse in housing prices. There's too much demand and not enough supply for a major collapse to happen.


119 posted on 10/14/2006 12:22:21 PM PDT by defenderSD (The concept of national martyrdom, combined with nuclear weapons, is extremely dangerous.)
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To: defenderSD

I disagree. It's not a reallocation based on free economics. I think the real estate bubble is directly correlated to the credit bubble that has been created by the FED and foreign purchases of US debt instruments.


120 posted on 10/14/2006 12:22:45 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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