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If Lidle was pilot, beneficiaries could lose $1.5M benefit
ESPN ^ | October 13, 2006 | AP

Posted on 10/13/2006 10:37:22 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt

NEW YORK -- Cory Lidle's beneficiaries could lose out on a $1.5 million payout from baseball's benefit plan if it's determined that he was piloting his plane when it crashed into a Manhattan high-rise condominium.

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The plan calls for a $450,000 life insurance benefit and has an accidental death benefit of $1.05 million. However, the plan -- which applies to all big leaguers -- contains an exclusion for "any incident related to travel in an aircraft ... while acting in any capacity other than as a passenger."

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In addition, Lidle's wife is entitled to a widow's benefit under baseball's plan.

Lidle had nine years, 100 days of major league service -- 72 days shy of being fully vested. Because of that, his wife would be entitled to about $165,000 to $170,000 annually, which is 95 percent of the maximum, an amount indexed for inflation. There is an additional dependent benefit.

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1. I've been involved in this type of litigation on numerous occassions...involving beneficiaries of drivers of cars and pilots of planes trying to get the insurance money. It always comes down to a few expert reports saying the exact opposite thing.

2. MLB has a nice widow's benefit plan...I guess I should have married a baseball player.

1 posted on 10/13/2006 10:37:23 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: ContemptofCourt

Exactly how do you verify who was flying in such a case?


2 posted on 10/13/2006 10:39:26 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: TheBattman

I think I heard that the bodies were burnt, but still strapped into the seats.


3 posted on 10/13/2006 10:41:09 AM PDT by arichtaxpayer (We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail.)
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To: ContemptofCourt

The way they determine who was flying, is check for who has broken thumbs. The one with broken thumbs had his hands on the controls.


4 posted on 10/13/2006 10:41:20 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: ContemptofCourt

Interesting. I'm kind of surprised someone could possibly be considered a "passenger" under these circumstances. If someone: 1) owns the aircraft in question, 2) is a licensed pilot, and 3) is flying with a certified instructor on board, then he's hardly a "passenger" in any real sense of the word.


5 posted on 10/13/2006 10:42:26 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: TheBattman

Failing any other evidence, I think it will boil down to whomever was in the left seat.


6 posted on 10/13/2006 10:44:45 AM PDT by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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To: ContemptofCourt

I predict a "litigation situation"


7 posted on 10/13/2006 10:45:27 AM PDT by The G Man (The NY Times did "great harm to the United States" - President George W. Bush 6/26/06)
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2. MLB has a nice widow's benefit plan...I guess I should have married a baseball player.

Why? Are you planning to "off" your spouse? ;^)

8 posted on 10/13/2006 10:45:56 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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Terrible for the family, but I wonder how much it'd cost individual player's to take out their own policies to cover "risky" extracurricular activities not covered by the teams' plans?
9 posted on 10/13/2006 10:46:43 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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3) is flying with a certified instructor on board...

When flying with an instructor, the instructor is the "pilot in command". If there is a violation of a rule, the instructor gets the ticket.

Almost always, the first time something unusual happens, the instructor says "I've got it", takes the controls, and the "student" takes his hands and feet off the controls.

That is explained by the instructor as part of the preflight.

10 posted on 10/13/2006 10:48:24 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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The one with broken thumbs had his hands on the controls.

If I were a passenger and saw that the pilot was about to hit a building I'd probably have broken thumbs.

11 posted on 10/13/2006 10:48:42 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: arichtaxpayer

I think I heard that the bodies were burnt, but still strapped into the seats.""

I heard one report that said Cory's body was found on the sidewalk at ground level. If still in the seat, it all came out together. I agree with the comment about the broken thumbs, tho. Same thing happens to race car drivers in really bad crashes. Think Shirley Muldowney , driving a top fuel dragster, who crashed some years ago.


12 posted on 10/13/2006 10:48:52 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ContemptofCourt

Cory Lidle was a millionaire. His wife will be in much better position to support herself and their children than most widows would be, with or without benefits from MLB.


13 posted on 10/13/2006 10:50:48 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: TheBattman

Forensics. I would think it would be easy.


14 posted on 10/13/2006 10:50:51 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Never Forget)
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To: Dan(9698)

They also look for broken legs, because pilots control rudders with both feet. Speculation has it that Lidle, a low time pilot in a high performance Cirrus, was PIC (pilot in command). He had with him his flight instructor

He was legal to fly where he was, per Federal Air Regulations (FARs). The raging debate now is whether this airspace should have more restrictions, but powerful GA lobbying groups are doing all they can to keep the VFR corridor over the East River open to pleasure craft.


15 posted on 10/13/2006 10:51:47 AM PDT by dashing doofus
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To: Dan(9698)

The instructor is not necessarily the PIC.


16 posted on 10/13/2006 10:52:47 AM PDT by dashing doofus
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To: grobdriver
Failing any other evidence, I think it will boil down to whomever was in the left seat.

That has nothing to do with it.

In your first flight as a student, you are in the left seat. All your instruction is received while you are in the left seat.

Instructors always fly the right seat.

17 posted on 10/13/2006 10:53:09 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: ContemptofCourt

Why would the family of someone who was making multiple millions of dollars a year have to worry about a pension benefit?


18 posted on 10/13/2006 10:55:07 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: ContemptofCourt

The Thurman Munson clause?


19 posted on 10/13/2006 10:55:07 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: TheBattman
Exactly how do you verify who was flying in such a case?

Hire a highly compensated forensic engineer with a lengthy resume who will support your version of events. Of course, the other side will as well. Then you have a "Battle of the Experts".

20 posted on 10/13/2006 10:56:52 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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