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1 posted on 10/13/2006 6:57:02 AM PDT by petertare
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"Empty Suits" - Michael Savage


2 posted on 10/13/2006 6:57:47 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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Peace in our Time......Time


3 posted on 10/13/2006 6:59:58 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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That's just for the public resolution. I'd bet GW has alternate plans in mind if the UN resolution is ignored and he probably has advised the allies all about it.

Let the toothless UN save face and then, as they say, "if you want something done right, do it yourself."


5 posted on 10/13/2006 7:00:46 AM PDT by varina davis
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This game is getting a bit old now especially since we can't ever win.


6 posted on 10/13/2006 7:00:55 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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Rice's tough talk before NK fired missiles a few weeks ago went silent after they fired them.

Rice's tough talk before NK set off the nuclear test went silent after they set off the test.

Team Bush's foreign policy regarding both Iran and NK has been stymied. They call the West's bluff, and the West blinks.

Team Bush needs to read the full Teddy Roosevelt statement. So far, they are stuck on : "Walk softly."


9 posted on 10/13/2006 7:02:39 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Hold on a minute. The threat of force was dropped in the explicit language of the Security Council proposal, right? Well big deal.

I really don't think that option is off the table of the rights of this sovereign nation.

This may be a way to get China and/or Russia to play ball. But it certainly doesn't affect our options outside the feckless U.N.

11 posted on 10/13/2006 7:03:20 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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China just called our bluff...and we blinked...Iran next to join the nuke club...then the doors open wide.


12 posted on 10/13/2006 7:03:22 AM PDT by USMMA_83 (Tantra is my fetish ;))
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A little difficulty in some other part of the world, and we fold our tents and issue stationary.

Looks like we have to wait for the next catastrophic attack. Seems to be the game plan now. We've become a paper eagle.


17 posted on 10/13/2006 7:06:43 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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Unlike Iran, Korea has very little in the way of an economy. REAL economic sanctions, and no ability to sell weapons, would cause that place to fall apart like a cheap suit. The real problem is verification, and how much we can trust China and Russia. Also, if the government collapse, what takes its place. I say reunification with South Korea is the only good solution if it is possible.


19 posted on 10/13/2006 7:08:31 AM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Psalm 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.)
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U.S. Drops Threat of Force...

Tell it to Saddamn.

21 posted on 10/13/2006 7:09:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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26 posted on 10/13/2006 7:19:40 AM PDT by Gritty (A great empire and little minds go ill together - Edmond Burke, 1775)
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From all indications this appears to be the manner in which we will now handle the crisis. We will wait until the next attack and then depending on who is in power, we will either surrender or fight. I'm tired of seeing the military have to work with both arms tied behind their backs and I would prefer we go ahead and win this war (because we can), but it does appear we are afraid of something or someone. I tend to agree we are afraid of china, per our present attitude. A nuclear explosion is in the offing on our home soil, it would appear. The only question is when, should we fail to surrender. I prefer to fight but I am only one. Our nation's leaders hold the military option(s), not me.


28 posted on 10/13/2006 7:23:11 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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This is a lie. President Bush and John Bolton said, "The Military Option is very much still on the table". Divide and conquer ain't working on me!

LLS


29 posted on 10/13/2006 7:23:31 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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Bush has always been scared of North Korea - because they're afraid of Red China.


30 posted on 10/13/2006 7:26:00 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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Reminds me of President McNeal's rousing speech, from Futurama.

TV announcer: Once again, today's winning lotto number was 4. In other news, alien saucers continue to rain destruction upon Earth. We now go live to an emergency address by Earth President McNeal.

President McNeal: Ladies and gentlemen, our course is clear. The time has come to knuckle under. To get down on all fours and really lick boot. Give our alien masters whatever they want.

32 posted on 10/13/2006 7:33:44 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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There is no issue so important that we cannot walk away from what is needed. Appease the UN, good grief will we never learn.


37 posted on 10/13/2006 7:54:21 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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Actually, the US promised not to attack N Korea during the six party talks last year. And President Bush has not ruled out anything while saying diplomacy must be given every effort to work. Whether or not it comes to fighting will depend on what N Korea does in response to the focused Security Council resolution punitive measures whenever it is passed.


40 posted on 10/13/2006 7:58:18 AM PDT by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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U.S. Foreign policy changed immediately after the 2004 election.

Condi was not brought in due to her loyalty to Bush. She was brought in to establish the JFingKerry foreign policy - talk and retreat, talk and retreat, talk and retreat.


43 posted on 10/13/2006 8:07:20 AM PDT by Wuli
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I don't know if the use of force in response to a nuclear test was a valid policy anyway. I don't think we're "giving up" anything important here.


54 posted on 10/13/2006 2:31:57 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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SK's capital is thirty miles from the border and well within range of 10k arty pieces dug into very hard to knock out mountain enclaves. Militarily, it has got to be one of the most disadventageous situations on the planet.

Nonetheless, S Korea feels that they have the situation well in hand with Uncle Kim.

Hope Asia is paying attention of the influence and interference from China is this situation. They are hardly promoting peace and stability. Hope we get tighter with Japan and the other Tigers as a result.


59 posted on 10/13/2006 7:56:27 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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