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Wiccans seek place in military graveyards
News.com.au ^ | 10/4/06 | News.com.au

Posted on 10/12/2006 5:15:38 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70

NEO-PAGAN Wiccans in the United States have gone to court to force the US military to accept their five-pointed star-in-a-circle symbol on tombstones in military cemeteries, a civil liberties group said today.

The American Civil Liberties Union said the Wiccans want to have their symbol recognised for use in the official veterans' graveyards in the same way that Christian crosses, the Jewish Star of David and symbols for Muslims, Sikhs and adherents of other religions - 38 in all - are used.

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KEYWORDS: aleistercrowley; kooks; wiccans
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1 posted on 10/12/2006 5:15:38 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: MotleyGirl70

Let them have their place of rest.

Sheeeze this should be a non-issue. My son is in Iraq fighting for freedom of religion for Pete's sake!


2 posted on 10/12/2006 5:17:04 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: MotleyGirl70

How about just pictures of the Wicked Witch of the West from the Wizard of Oz? (Although any picture of Hillary would suffice as well).


3 posted on 10/12/2006 5:17:21 PM PDT by kromike
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To: MotleyGirl70
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4 posted on 10/12/2006 5:17:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: MotleyGirl70

Is there an actual real Wiccan dead soldier or is this a made up crisis?


5 posted on 10/12/2006 5:18:43 PM PDT by Mercat (Show me what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman.)
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To: bnelson44
Don't get all defense on me!

I posted if for discussion purposes for Pete's sake! Calm down!

6 posted on 10/12/2006 5:19:10 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: Mercat
From the article:

Use of the symbol has been sought recently by a retired military follower of Wicca and relatives of two former soldiers who have passed away - one a World War II veteran buried in the prestigious Arlington National Cemetery near Washington, and the second a soldier killed in Iraq.

8 posted on 10/12/2006 5:20:39 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: MotleyGirl70

Are we talking the shape of the whole grave marker or the emblem on the standard US military grave marker here?


9 posted on 10/12/2006 5:21:06 PM PDT by Gator101
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To: Leo Carpathian

Way to slander our heroes in the military.


10 posted on 10/12/2006 5:21:15 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: Leo Carpathian

I doubt your post will be up long. That's just wrong and disrespecful to our fallen soliders to suggest such a thing!


11 posted on 10/12/2006 5:23:17 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: MotleyGirl70
The only argument against is that Wicca is a made up religion, and not the ancient pagan whatchamacallit it claims to be. And I'm not sure that's aa real argument against. I don't see why it should be a problem -- except, you watch, somebody will come along claiming that he's a kamasutra-ite and it's an ancient religion and he wants an engraving of two people copulating (getting it on, for those of you in Rio Linda) on his grave stone.

But I guess we can deal with that when it happens.


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12 posted on 10/12/2006 5:24:39 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Now we are all Massoud)
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To: Leo Carpathian

Have you risked your life in defense of our country and constitution?


13 posted on 10/12/2006 5:26:01 PM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: kromike
I know you are trying to be funny but wicca is a recognized religion and the pentagram is the same to wiccans as any religions symbols.If the VA is inscribing headstones with religious symbols then they should legally include the pentagram.
14 posted on 10/12/2006 5:26:59 PM PDT by alchemist54 ((for those who fight for it freedom has a taste the protected will never know))
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To: MotleyGirl70

If it's something like just a Wiccan symbol on a headstone like this in place of the Cross, I don't see what the fuss is? ...And I say that as one who will someday be buried under one of these. If the guy next to me was a Wiccan let him have his emblem. He's a brother vet to me no matter what his religious beliefs are.

15 posted on 10/12/2006 5:27:45 PM PDT by Gator101
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To: Leo Carpathian

WOW we have a real throwback to Salem---a real tolerant christian attitude there!!!!!!!


16 posted on 10/12/2006 5:30:12 PM PDT by alchemist54 ((for those who fight for it freedom has a taste the protected will never know))
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To: Leo Carpathian

I've posted some pretty offensive things at times, but damn. These are US soldiers.


17 posted on 10/12/2006 5:31:24 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: alchemist54
I know you are trying to be funny but wicca is a recognized religion and the pentagram is the same to wiccans as any religions symbols.If the VA is inscribing headstones with religious symbols then they should legally include the pentagram.

And that is why it is ludicrous not to recognize the basic facts that America is both a nation comprised of a Christ-influenced culture and tradition, but with freedom of worship within this context.

Freedom of worship doesn't mean government must be forced to condone and practice perverse religion.

18 posted on 10/12/2006 5:31:55 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Mercat
Is there an actual real Wiccan dead soldier or is this a made up crisis?

If nothing else, I'm sure they could dredge up a Wiccan Cindy Sheehan wannabee who insists on burying her dead son or daughter with a Wicca symbol.

19 posted on 10/12/2006 5:33:19 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: unspun

And who appointed you Grand Inquisitor, to define what constitutes an "approved" religion? Should Atheists, Agnostics, Jews, and Hindus be banned from military cemetaries as well?


20 posted on 10/12/2006 5:33:43 PM PDT by Clemenza (Lets Go Mets!!!)
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