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The False Economics of Cheapness
Real Life | 11 October 2006 | LibKill

Posted on 10/11/2006 5:17:29 PM PDT by LibKill

"You will NEVER buy a Dell again."

So pronounced my boss.

We bought a new server and a new desktop for the boss. I talked him into buying Dell because that is the only brand our university MSS department supports. That is because our techs can open a Dell case without voiding the warranty. Not true of many other brands.

The boss's new desktop was a disaster. Despite the new dual-core pentium IV it was slower than a 4 year-old Compaq. It turns out that Dell uses reconditioned parts in their new machines and the reconditioned hard drive was defective. Dell sent a contract tech to replace the harddrive. The boss still does not trust the computer although it runs well now.

As it is the tally goes:

1. Dell saved a few dollars by using a reconditioned harddrive. It's failure and subsequent replacement cost Dell much more than they saved.

2. We have somewhere around 50 computers, will have to replace all of them in the future and buy even more computers as our operations expand. Not one of them will be a Dell. Sales lost to save a few dollars by using junk parts.

3. My boss, an influential and persuasive man is now bad-mouthing Dell to all and sundry. Many people listen to him on this score and believe him as he is a scientist and a leader in his field.

4. I am not influential or persuasive, but you couldn't give me a Dell for my own personal use let alone will I ever buy one. I would rather build my own computers for my home use. At least I know the parts are new. At least one sale lost there, maybe more.

I doubt this will ever be read by anyone at Dell, or even if they would care much. But, those of you who run businesses please consider that sometimes saving money is not the be-all end-all of business. Sometimes quality is more important than you might think.

Your reputation is on the line with every sale you make. Sometimes you only get one chance.


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1 posted on 10/11/2006 5:17:29 PM PDT by LibKill
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To: LibKill

What makes this crazier is that Hard drives are cheap.


2 posted on 10/11/2006 5:20:28 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: LibKill

I've had two Dells for three years now and flog them daily with no problems. What's the point of this thread anyway? Got up on the wrong side of the bed?


3 posted on 10/11/2006 5:23:14 PM PDT by RichardW
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To: LibKill
Been there, done that. My wife's machine would pause every other second for about three seconds. That meant that for every five seconds, you could get about two seconds of work done. Over the space of six months (under warranty, thankfully), we replaced: I'm not kidding. Nothing worked until everything was replaced. Not planning to buy another Dell.
4 posted on 10/11/2006 5:23:56 PM PDT by Egon (I stand beside you as your partner, in front as your defender, behind as... hey! nice butt!)
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To: LibKill

I have a 15 year old dell that just gave up the ghost. That's not to shabby as far as I am concerned.


5 posted on 10/11/2006 5:24:12 PM PDT by Ham Hock
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To: Egon

My Dell laptop, on the other hand, has been the best machine I've ever had!


6 posted on 10/11/2006 5:24:55 PM PDT by Egon (I stand beside you as your partner, in front as your defender, behind as... hey! nice butt!)
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To: RichardW
I've had two Dells for three years now and flog them daily with no problems. What's the point of this thread anyway? Got up on the wrong side of the bed?

Not at all. I did experience much moaning and such from the boss fella about Dells but I'm over that. :)

I know many Freepers are business owners and/or in a position to make decisions such as, "Should we save a few bucks by using junk parts?"

Sometimes you get one chance and only one chance. It's not like Dell is the only company making computers.

7 posted on 10/11/2006 5:28:56 PM PDT by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: LibKill

I've bought about 10 or 12 Dells since I gave up on Gateway Computers. All of them worked fine.


8 posted on 10/11/2006 5:30:48 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: RichardW

It could be worse.

I own a Mac .. actually 5. Ever seen a Mac thread? Much abuse.


9 posted on 10/11/2006 5:31:18 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Never Forget)
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To: LibKill
It turns out that Dell uses reconditioned parts in their new machines and the reconditioned hard drive was defective.

I seriously doubt this. It would be a welcome mat for a class action suit.

The replacement drive might have been reconditioned, but if the system was sold as new, the parts have to be new.

I'm no big fan of Dell, but they would be suicidal to use reconditioned parts in systems they sell as new.

10 posted on 10/11/2006 5:31:52 PM PDT by MediaMole (9/11 - We have already forgotten.)
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To: LibKill

Dell is recycling. recycling , get it?


11 posted on 10/11/2006 5:33:37 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: RichardW


12 posted on 10/11/2006 5:34:44 PM PDT by packrat35 (guest worker/day worker=SlaveMart)
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To: LibKill

My dell works fine, I have a friend who has added stuff to it as hes a computer tech. Its 6 yrs old. I personally won't buy a dell because all tech help is outsourced to India and I could not understand the people trying to help me. I won't deal with any other company who outsources their tech help. I will just get my friend to build me a new computer when the need arises.


13 posted on 10/11/2006 5:43:40 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: LibKill
Image hosted by Photobucket.com if they are selling recons as NEW... SUE their ass.
14 posted on 10/11/2006 5:51:45 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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The contract tech, who does a fair bit of warranty business in two states replacing faulty Dell parts, told me that they use reconditioned parts. I did not make this up.

Bear in mind that I myself am not a computer tech, although I do sometimes work on my own computers and have built many. So could a monkey if it could use a screwdriver and read english. Real techs have to know more than just how to bolt 'em together.

I am not interested in suing Dell. I'm not even really interested in Dell at all. The point of this post is The False Economics of Cheapness. Sometimes it costs more to be cheap than to do quality work. It sure did in this case.

15 posted on 10/11/2006 5:59:09 PM PDT by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: LibKill
The contract tech, who does a fair bit of warranty business in two states replacing faulty Dell parts, told me that they use reconditioned parts. I did not make this up.

Either you misunderstood him, or he should get fired. It's not unusual for replacement parts to be refurbs, but I find it hard to believe they would put one in a new machine.

BTW, new parts fail, too, and in general refurbs have a lower failure rate.

16 posted on 10/11/2006 6:07:22 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: LibKill

Quality is remembered long after price is forgotten. On another note, my Kingston flash drive just went through the washer and the dryer, and it still works. Amazing.


17 posted on 10/11/2006 6:13:48 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends we need a 600 ship Navy.)
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To: sgtbono2002

Being in the computer 'binness, I've recommended Dell in the past, but have stopped doing so (especially for laptops).

I've seen 3 different Dell laptops, all under 2 years old, where the lcd/external monitor switching circuitry would go flaky. The lcd screen itself was fine, but you could only use the laptop (sometimes to restore things by uninstalling the Dell video driver) by connecting an external monitor.

Pretty bad...


18 posted on 10/11/2006 6:16:02 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: LibKill

It could be the local PC maintenance company uses refurbed parts.


19 posted on 10/11/2006 6:33:44 PM PDT by nvcdl
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To: LibKill

I bought a refurbed Dell business laptop 3 years ago. Have dropped it hard 3 or 4 times and it still works fine.


20 posted on 10/11/2006 6:35:11 PM PDT by jrp
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