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Porsche chief's disdain for America
The American Thinker ^ | 10-11-06 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 10/11/2006 4:15:03 AM PDT by Renfield

Davids Medienkritik discovered deep condescension toward America from a German executive whose company makes most of its money here. Porsche CEO Wendelin Wiedeking defends the German “social model” of capitalism, and implies that we Americans are barely out of the backwoods with our rifles.

Europe’s culture is decidedly older than that of the USA. The Fuggers were doing business, while hunting was still the order of the day in America. Right now 37 million people in the USA live below the poverty line. The gulf between poor and rich has widened brutally. Do we want to have a situation like that in Europe and particularly in Germany?

Why would anyone buy an expensive car from a company whose head looks down on him?

I wonder what Herr Wiedeking has to say about the Japanese after a beers?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: antigerman; arrogance; euroirrelavance; eurotrash; eurotwits; germany; porsche; thehunsarecomming
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To: Renfield

I don't exactly see why defending the German economic model is showing disdain for the USA. He just seems one of the people who doesn't think copying the American economic model 1:1 is the way to go. I also don't understand why you're getting so worked up over the Fugger bit. For one that's just a factand more importantly it says nothing about which economic model suits today's states' needs best. His other points are much more valid, for example the big income gap in the USA. It's a typical warning against getting too euphoric about the good parts of the US system and forgetting about the bad parts.


121 posted on 10/11/2006 8:26:19 AM PDT by Schweinhund
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To: Michael81Dus

Trust me euros are jealous and hate the US(they have since I can remember). They will never be the world power again. Germany has about 11-12% unemployment(its 4.6% in the US and we have 300 million people),and they are going to be over run by muslims in the future. They also lack innovation and are weak militarily. They are pissed because a young country like the US knocked them out of the driving seat in world affairs, and if the US ever does fall as a super power they wont be the next superpower. Communist china will be. Europe would do well to repair its alliance with the US and stop moralizing from their diminished position in world affairs.They are also a welfare nanny socialist state(communism lite). No thanks,the US is much more dynamic
and freemoving than the EU,and always will be.


122 posted on 10/11/2006 9:38:33 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: Renfield; All

no porshe no problem

Skip French products
Skip Porshe products

EASY!


123 posted on 10/11/2006 9:43:26 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sam Cree
Germany was not in retreat, The Summer offensive starting with Barbarosa had stalled and there was retreat, however in 1942, Germany was back with a push toward Stalingrad.
Also, while North Africa and Italy were small campaigns, that and our bombing campaign took resources from the Russian front, that helped save the SU. Also, we provided millions of tons of military aid to the SU.

Why shouldn't we be proud of our victory over Germany? It was the defeat of an evil genocidal regime.
124 posted on 10/11/2006 10:03:54 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Schweinhund

I don't think there is really a coherent American economic model. At one time it may have been based more or less on the concepts of Adam Smith (which means that the state should butt out, excepting for enforcing contract law and basic honesty) but for quite some time now, the American economy has been fairly constantly tinkered with by Congress, but not in any consistent or coherent way.

My opinion is that a free market is pretty much the best model (even though in a sense it is no model at all, since it denies the state the ability to shape and arrange), and the most likely to lessen poverty. However, I doubt that the US has a noticably freer market than many European countries.


125 posted on 10/11/2006 10:05:37 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: Renfield
Porsche... tell me again what Germany's unemployment rate is?

You don't have to answer since I know it is exponentially greater than the U.S.A.'s.

126 posted on 10/11/2006 10:10:03 AM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: seamusnh

I care what a European thinks because Americans and Europe share a cultural and spiritual heritage, that of Western Civilization, which is unique in the world. And currently under attack.

I drive a Dodge pickup truck, which is a wonderful vehicle. It was American when I bought it, but I believe Dodge has become something of a German company these days. Wife drives a Saab, also a very good vehicle. Saab is owned by GM, I believe. The Saab might get replaced by a Toyota, but it's a little too soon to be thinking about replacing it.


127 posted on 10/11/2006 10:11:29 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

I am proud of it, and proud that Dad participated on the ground.


128 posted on 10/11/2006 10:13:13 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: WildBill2275

leak proof, insulated cars are for pu$$ies. :D


129 posted on 10/11/2006 10:36:28 AM PDT by BritExPatInFla
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To: Sam Cree
I think much of the US model can be characterized as an implementation of neoliberal ideas (Hayek, Friedman) while many of the European countries rather tend to use (Neo-)Keynesian theories. But my economics knowledge is too limited to be certain about that.

In the end, I would say that this article from David's Medienkritik and many reactions on this board remind me of other boycotts because of felt insults, Danish cookies for example.

130 posted on 10/11/2006 1:12:13 PM PDT by Schweinhund
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To: Miss Marple

"got hooked on drugs, got pregnant, etc."

Please...no one just "gets pregnant." Oops she was walking down the street and got pregnant by accident, what a tragedy, no way she could have prevented it!

No one just gets hooked on drugs against their will, either. People make their own choices and put themselves in those situations.


131 posted on 10/11/2006 2:34:49 PM PDT by Pete98 (After his defeat by the Son of God, Satan changed his name to Allah and started over.)
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To: xcamel

"I'll take my Audi S4 Cabrio any day"

Audis are awesome. BMWs are awesome.

(Turned in my leased Audi allroad a couple of months ago, somewhat sadly)


132 posted on 10/11/2006 2:46:15 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: dfwgator

If I were an "uneducated social drop out" I wouldn't wish that on my kids. And you missed "especially if I had kids".


133 posted on 10/11/2006 2:46:17 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Michael81Dus; DungeonMaster
Ok, we´ll send our "unwilling to integrate Muslims" to you instead. Deal?

Wow, a German advocating invading another country ... there's a shocker. :)

134 posted on 10/11/2006 2:57:36 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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To: xcamel
Even faltering GM builds a better sport scar (arguably)
135 posted on 10/11/2006 3:03:35 PM PDT by Dead Dog (What Would Mohammad Do? WWMD)
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To: Michael81Dus
It´s right, America shouldered much of the burden to defeat Nazi Germany in the West, but it wasn´t the Wehrmacht of 1940, then

Actually if the Russians and the Germans had not faced off against each other in 1941 and Americans had to invade Europe facing a (relatively) fresh Wehrmacht. We would probably have had our butts handed to us on D-Day.

Of course 3 years later we would have nuked Germany flat when we had enough bombs to do it.

136 posted on 10/11/2006 3:03:39 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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To: the invisib1e hand

Romel was probably one hell of a fine man. Germany has many great things going for it. I like 'em. Many of them like us. Then there is old Europe who just can't handle common stock being able to read, write, self defend and call their BS BS.


137 posted on 10/11/2006 3:05:41 PM PDT by Dead Dog (What Would Mohammad Do? WWMD)
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To: xcamel
Audi S4 Cabrio

You SUCK! I want an S4 soooo bad. I had to settle for a Passat instead........
138 posted on 10/11/2006 3:06:49 PM PDT by cmsgop ( President Mahmud Ahmadinejad Must Purify Himself in The Waters of Lake Minnetonka)
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To: Renfield

Hefe Weissen bier and sausages. They have this down to a science, and cannot be improved upon.


139 posted on 10/11/2006 3:14:25 PM PDT by Freedom4US (u)
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To: avg_freeper

"Don't mention the war!"

Ferdy Porsche and BMW helped the Germans. They were German companies.

Ford helped the Germans and the Americans. It was an American company.

Go figure.


140 posted on 10/11/2006 3:26:57 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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