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Heads Up! President Bush Addresses the Nation 09:45AM ET
Fox News | 10/9/2006 | staff

Posted on 10/09/2006 6:39:50 AM PDT by kellynla

President Bush addresees the nation from the White House 09:45AM ET


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; hansbrix; kim; nkorea; nodong; northkorea
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To: silentknight
OK, I see it is time for Civics 101 again. REAL life is not a Hollywood action movie. The macho man who ignores orders and plays the tough guy doesn't get the girl and ride off into the Sunset at the end of 2 hours.

Instead people die, possibly many many people, not all of them the bad guys. Not every problem is a nail fit for a military hammer. SOME times blowing the crap out of something makes the situation worse, not better.

A President is not God. He cannot simply decided to have someone killed because they annoy the squad of Always Angry Freepers.

He, unlike the Always Angry, has to live in the real world. He has to consider the consequences of his actions, both short term and a long term on the US, on our Allies, and other regional powers. He has to consider Congress's opinion. He has to consider America's strategic needs in other parts of the world. He has to consider all aspects because unlike the bellicose bellowing of the usual suspects, HIS actions get people killed.

It really easy to be a tough talking macho man when all it costs you is some hot air or key strikes. The President has to make decision that that have very REAL consequences now, and in the future, for all of us. Easy to talk tough, and come up with fantasy land Hollywood Actions movie plots on what should be done when you bear NO consequences for the actions that result.

What is the solution? I don't know. But the problem is WAY more complex then the Always Hating types hanging out here seem to grasp. I am just glad I know who is making the call instead of John Kerry or Al Gore. Easy to be a tough guy with words when other people will be paying the blood price for your macho man talking points
361 posted on 10/09/2006 8:06:27 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Evil Dooer, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
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To: tomnbeverly
Pelosi would be the President...

the virtual-castration of America.

362 posted on 10/09/2006 8:07:43 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: Peach

Bolton on live again:

All 15 council members participated in discussion about NK test. Unanimous condemnation. No one defended NK.

Most members said they were prepared to work on draft resolution I proposed. 3:00 meeting again to discuss resolution.

I'm impressed by agreement of Council for strong and swift answer to what everyone agreed amounted to a threat to peace and security.

I'm strongly encouraged by the mood of the Council and by the strength of feelings expressed; off to a good start.

?: You said NK's friends (China nad Russia) would have to make decisions; what have they said.

Bolton: I didn't see any protectors of NK this morning.

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363 posted on 10/09/2006 8:08:04 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

Bolton also said that a 30 minute meeting for the Security Council to reach agreement on anything is unheard of.


364 posted on 10/09/2006 8:08:43 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: italianquaker
wait nothing about foley, the dems question the timing of this test considering that kim the dnc donates to the dnc kim

There. Fixed it. ;^)

365 posted on 10/09/2006 8:08:43 AM PDT by top 2 toe red (To the enemy in Iraq..."Don't bet on American politics forcing my hand!" President Bush)
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To: Joan Kerrey

"The key to this is China."

As I've been saying for months, it is past time for the Chicoms to get their "Dog" back on the porch.

How do you say "embargo" in Chinese?


366 posted on 10/09/2006 8:08:45 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Steel Wolf
Those are options that aren't on the table. Assassination of foreign leaders is illegal, and the U.S. won't engage in it. Period. Full stop.

It was made illegal by E.O. of Bush mentor Jerry Ford and later Carter. It is only an E.O. and can be rescinded.

367 posted on 10/09/2006 8:09:46 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: kellynla
And now with this nuclear test, if it was a nuclear test, we see what good diplomacy is against a government and a tyrant who is dishonorable and dishonest and can’t be trusted. Six years of diplomacy from Bush used with North Korea, and they built and tested a nuclear device anyway. Oh, but the media blames that on Bush too saying that he wasn’t using the right KIND of diplomacy.

Yes we should have been using the kind if diplomacy that Clinton and Albright used for eight years, which was bending over and grabbing the ankles, GIVING North Korea the technology and materials they needed to make this nuclear device and surely others, possible. But then, that’s Bush’s fault too. The media has already spun it as though North Korea didn’t start their nuclear weapons program until January 20th, 2001, and they weren’t doing ANY nuclear research before then, despite Clinton having had provided North Korea with nuclear materials, necessary equipment, and other necessary technology, accepting a promise not to use them for nuclear weapons. Accepting a promise from a man that has never kept any promises he’s made all his life. He learned well from his father.

The dictator of North Korea gladly starves his family to maintain his military and chemical, biological, and now nuclear arsenals. What promise can be trusted from a man who starves his people to maintain his totally unnecessary military? The only wars on that peninsula the past 100 years have been started by nations that were not democracies. Japan, and North Korea. Since WWII, Japan has not attacked North Korea, and South Korea has never attacked North Korea since the two were split.

One thing is for sure, and it’s a point the democrats will NEVER admit to or make themselves for certain. Of the three most hostile and unstable nations in the world that were sponsors of terror and seekers of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, the only one that we are CERTAIN has no chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, is Iraq, the one we used military force against to remove the dictator and start a democratically elected government. That’s the bottom line. Oh, and Libya voluntarily giving up their chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs because dictator Qadaffi was so scared we’d do to him what we did to Hussein, that’s a bonus. When military action was taken against Iraq, their banned weapons programs ceased to exist, and so did Libya’s by proxy. And Iraq did have WMD, there are tons of banned materials that were removed the past three years from Iraq that he swore he didn’t have, including the hundreds of sarin gas long range artillery shells, and the nearly three tons of enriched (yellow cake) uranium that was removed from Iraq in 2004, which Hussein swore to the world he didn’t have. Oh, Joe Wilson also swore Hussein didn’t have it. And yet, there it is. Hussein and Joe Wilson and the Democrats alike say the same thing to Americans every time; "What are you going to believe? Us? Or your lying eyes?" The idea that Iraq had no WMD before March of 2003 is the biggest new urban legend. It’s flatly untrue and military storage sites in America and Iraq and full of banner weapons materials that shouldn’t have been there, but were, and it’s documented for anyone who is more concerned with reality over their obsessive political agenda.

The nations in which diplomacy has been used, at the urging of the Democrats, North Korea and Iran, well lets see, they break all promises, ignore all deadlines, and North Korea now has nuclear weapons, and Iran is close to having them, if they don’t already. And this crap that Bush didn’t use the right kind of diplomacy is such a red herring. There are only so many kinds of diplomacy. Clinton got NO WHERE with North Korea or Iran, they had eight years of unfettered access to whatever materials they wanted, and furthered their chemical and biological and nuclear weapons programs with nary a "boo" from the Clinton White House. Now Democrats continue to rant about "talking" to Iran and North Korea. I swear, the people leading the liberal charge for diplomacy with North Korea and Iran are the stupidest smart people in the whole world. There is only one thing that radical tyrannical dictators like Kim Jong-Il and Ahmadinejad understand. Force of arms and pounding on a table. They do not respond to diplomacy, they laugh at us inside when we "dialogue" with them and think we’re fools for just talking. Diplomacy has pointed out the weakest of all world governments in these situations, just like before WWI and WWII. The sooner America understands that, the better. Otherwise, that TV show "Jericho" will become the new 9-11 reality, and the fault will belong exclusively with those who want to use "diplomacy" with North Kore and Iran.

368 posted on 10/09/2006 8:09:57 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (The Democrats gave up trying to win elections on issues, they're now trying to win on fixed scandle.)
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To: Steel Wolf
Global communism isn't poised to take over the world,

I cringe when I see/hear people say this. The communists are closer to their goals now then they have ever been before.

369 posted on 10/09/2006 8:10:25 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Mr Rogers
I believe the US is morally justified in doing whatever it takes to stop nK and Iran - but I would bet no more than 5% of Americans agree, because 'whatever it takes' is pretty violent.

It's also unnecessary, as there are other -- and better -- ways to do this. Bush has made a significant point of drawing a distinction between the NK regime, and the people of NK. He did it again, today.

The key to the problem is not to destroy the people, it's to destroy the regime. I'm pretty sure we have the stomach to do that, and with China we have a partner (not an ally) with an incentive to finally address the problem of that little bedbug next door.

To a man with a hammer, the whole world is a nail. Put down the hammer, and put on your thinking cap.

370 posted on 10/09/2006 8:10:55 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: sasha123
Are you aware that in the face of the atomic bombing being dropped on Japanese cities, the glorious leaders removed the elite, doctors, and other VIPs to safety and allowed the bomb to drop on Hiroshima. They sat back and allowed the second bomb to drop.

If you think the leaders are going to suffer you are naive.

371 posted on 10/09/2006 8:11:15 AM PDT by OldFriend (Should we wait for them to come and kill us again? President Karzai 9/26/06)
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To: Reily
Spot on Reily. The single issue "conservatives" better take heed soon,instead of holding on to this crazy notion that a 'loss' in 2006 will turn into a 'win' in 2008.

We can't take that chance. Period.

VOTE 'R' AT ALL COSTS.

372 posted on 10/09/2006 8:11:32 AM PDT by NewLand (Always Remember September 11, 2001)
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To: Just A Nobody

FNC has many many more viewers than the other CABLE stations. The MSM alphabets have millions more viewers.


373 posted on 10/09/2006 8:12:38 AM PDT by OldFriend (Should we wait for them to come and kill us again? President Karzai 9/26/06)
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To: MNJohnnie

Great post!

Thanks for taking the time to compose some rational comments about the real world situation we face.


374 posted on 10/09/2006 8:13:30 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: Just A Nobody

Hi Justa,

Ailes' comment was in a long profile article by a LATimes reporter, so I do not know exactly what Ailes actually said, only her interpretation. Maybe he means to be taking on the broadcast channels or CNNInternational or BBC. I don't know.

I read the entire article which was one-half of a page in the Baltimore Sun, because I wanted to see how Rush's association with Ailes was covered. It wasn't even mentioned! Roger Ailes was the producer of Rush's TV show, of which my mother has a videotape of every show!


375 posted on 10/09/2006 8:14:19 AM PDT by maica (9/11 was not “the day everything changed”, but the day that revealed how much had already changed.)
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To: r9etb
I'm not celebrating at all, just noting that for all the good things President Bush has done, this is his administration's Achilles' heel:

a) his failure to maintain political support for the war;
b) his failure to bring it to a successful conclusion (in Iraq), because, apparently, neither he nor the US military is prepared to use the methods necessary to crush the insurgency
c) his failure to maintain the seriousness of the effort by punishing the criminals at home who intefere with shipment of war material, leak and publish classified material for political reasons, and hire terrorists as 'journalists' to provide 'news' from the Middle East.

The Dems and the MSM are more than happy to see the US defeated abroad as long as they win domestically.

That's simply political reality, not defeatism.

376 posted on 10/09/2006 8:14:48 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: finnigan2
This can only diminish US influence in the far east as countries there look more and more to China for protection.

And why would anyone look to China for protection? After all, China was the one hosting the 6 party talks, China is the one who comes out of this the biggest failure in the eyes of the world. China just got a thumb in their eye by little Kimmy, so China has just proven that they can't sit at the big boys table.

377 posted on 10/09/2006 8:14:51 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: tomnbeverly

You mean there is something more important than bashing the President for spending on education. Who knew!


378 posted on 10/09/2006 8:14:56 AM PDT by OldFriend (Should we wait for them to come and kill us again? President Karzai 9/26/06)
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To: silentknight
President Bush said and PROMISED AMERICA that North Korea WOULD NOT be allowed to have Nuclear Weapons.

Wow. You need to start paying attention before you spout off.....

379 posted on 10/09/2006 8:15:30 AM PDT by ohioWfan (George W. Bush - "Take his character all together, and we shall not look upon his like again.")
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To: tomnbeverly
They would indict Cheney too... Pelosi would be the President...

That would require the votes of some 37 GOP Senators to make the 67. That is doubtful. The maximum the Dems could hope for would be, like against Clinton, voting Articles of Impeachment in the House to embarrass the President/Vice President. The Senate trial would take them until almost 08 anyway, so they would gain little except the Articles of Impeachment and political ground.
380 posted on 10/09/2006 8:15:43 AM PDT by TomGuy
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