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So Long, “Security Mom”
NRO ^ | October 6, 2006 | Myrna Blyth

Posted on 10/07/2006 5:54:41 AM PDT by paudio

“What were those guys thinking?”

That is what every woman I’ve spoken to has said about the Foley mess.

“What were those guys thinking?”

It’s just that simple.

Why didn’t Hastert and Reynolds and Shimkus understand what every vigilant parent knows, that there is something very fishy about an older guy, any older guy, sending overly friendly e-mails to a 16-year-old, whether the 16-year-old is a boy or a girl.

Sure, the fundamental problem here is that Foley was sending those e-mails and, even worse, those even more explicit and disgusting text messages. But just as big a problem is that the House leadership was so dumb or disinterested that they really believed (at least, so they say) Foley’s alleged excuse that he was just “being friendly.”

Didn’t they ever wonder why a 52-year-old congressman needed a 16-year-old friend? A congressman whom almost everyone on the Hill thought was gay?

Would they have believed him and then just gone about their business if the one receiving the e-mails was their own son?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: election; folley
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I think this is what in many mom's mind. Sometimes, it's not about truth. It's about perception. And Democrats, with the help of MSM, are good in playing with perception. Having said that, midterm election usually is about local issue. Hopefully Republican candidates can do a good campaign.
1 posted on 10/07/2006 5:54:41 AM PDT by paudio
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Oops... I didn't know that quotes could create such problem. Moderator, please fix the title... Thanks.


2 posted on 10/07/2006 5:56:28 AM PDT by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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To: paudio

Don't worry. This is not going to work. As Rush says...the door will open into the libs noses on this one.


3 posted on 10/07/2006 5:58:11 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: paudio

I don't like it when people assume mothers are irrational.


4 posted on 10/07/2006 5:58:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I was shouting at my Voices. I'm sorry I scared you.)
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To: paudio

I thought they were some arcane security code numbers.


5 posted on 10/07/2006 5:59:10 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: Tax-chick

I wonder what these security moms will think when it turns out that Pelosi's staff had this information long before THEY released it to the media.

It's only a matter of time.


6 posted on 10/07/2006 6:01:16 AM PDT by Perdogg (Democratic Party - The political wing of Al Qaida)
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To: Tax-chick

It's clear you've never met my ex MIL.


7 posted on 10/07/2006 6:02:03 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: paudio

If our quotation marks aren't secure how can anything or anyone be secure?


8 posted on 10/07/2006 6:02:41 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (What I do (sin) is proof of what I am (sinful).)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Whew!


9 posted on 10/07/2006 6:03:11 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (What I do (sin) is proof of what I am (sinful).)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

LOL! Change that to "all mothers."


10 posted on 10/07/2006 6:03:17 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I was shouting at my Voices. I'm sorry I scared you.)
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"Sometimes, it's not about truth"

I think you may be missing her key point. I understood her to say that right from the beginning the mothers figured out that the kids were at risk. Is she not suggesting that the mothers' first instincts of reality are proving true. This is very different than perception?
11 posted on 10/07/2006 6:03:26 AM PDT by spatso
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To: paudio

Fortunately the election is a month away. Plenty of time to make up lost ground. Nailing a few terrorists would help.


12 posted on 10/07/2006 6:06:37 AM PDT by veronica
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I have 2 sons and I would have done just what the LA. parents did. And I would have personally contacted Mr. Foley and told my son to block all messages from him.

With the special status gays have received in the past few years, how could any member of Congress done anything about "overly friendly" emails without being viewed as a homophobe? Hastert, and others, were damned if they did, damned if they didn't.

If this mess with IMs wasn't a prank, then why did pages continue talking to Foley? Nobody forced them to.....weren't they already out of the page program?
13 posted on 10/07/2006 6:07:59 AM PDT by jch10
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To: Perdogg

The problem with "security moms" as a concept is that it shifts responsibility, whether it's responsibility for keeping children safe from violence (if possible), or responsibility for keeping children safe from dirty internet chat with a Congressman.

Parents are responsible for their children's computer usage, until the children are adults and have left home, and that's that. I *KNOW* that no gay men, Congressmen or otherwise, are emailing MY sons, because my sons are not allowed to use the internet unsupervised. It's that simple.

It's not the Speaker of the House's responsibility, it's my husband's responsibility, because he's their father. (Funny how there usually aren't any fathers mentioned in these articles about how "moms" feel, isn't it?)


14 posted on 10/07/2006 6:08:14 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I was shouting at my Voices. I'm sorry I scared you.)
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With only seeing the e-mail, assuming no law was broken, even if the leaders were suspicious (which they were, so they asked Foley to stop), what could they have done? Once they saw the IMs, they immediately asked him to resign. This is 'truth'. But, the perceptions of Republican leaders were covering up for Foley would always be there.


15 posted on 10/07/2006 6:09:16 AM PDT by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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Actually, one of the pluses of the Federal bureaucracy is its emphasis on mentoring, the so-called "rabbi" watching out for the career growth of the young employees. The turnover and technology cycles in corporate America is just too rapid to sustain that model. (turnover and change being notably absent in the bureaucracy.)

If you dust off your psych 101 textbook and read up on life stages, you'll also find that once you get the gold watch, you are driven to teach, to pass along your craft to the next generation. Consider it a continuation of the species thing.

Now take someone like a Hastert, immersed in his job (and thus the bureaucracy mindset) 24/7, midwestern roots, a firm belief in his power (I commanded him to stop) and therefore no need for follow-through, an inside-the-beltway sensitivity to the media storm that would come from clamping down on a protected class, mentoring and "career rabbi" being the norm for those in power (like a rep.), it is not too hard to see how this could slip by. Not excusing it, but "how could this happen" is not as implausible as the article suggests.

16 posted on 10/07/2006 6:09:23 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Treaty Fetishism: "[The] belief that a piece of paper will alter the behavior of thugs." R. Lowry.)
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We would ask many more, and tougher, questions than these Congressmen say they did. And we would act to protect the kid and any other youngster whom that overly friendly guy might be tempted to bother.

We hear the same thing over and over, but with no specificity. What, exactly, would those "tougher" questions be in a matter like this? Maybe there is an obvious answer, but I don't know what it is. I haven't seen any transcripts of the conversations with Foley, so I don't know what was said. How does the writer know?

The writer says she would "act" to protect this teen. Well, they did. But she does not tell us what actions she would take to protect "any other youngster" that might attract his attention. How, exactly, do you do that? Should they have tried to expell him from Congress? HOMOPHOBIA, OVERREACTION!!! Should they have made him wear an identifying badge? Something like "I am a sexual predator." I just hate these cheap shots, especially from a supposed conservative.

17 posted on 10/07/2006 6:10:00 AM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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NRO has become the National RINO Organization.

Wimpy. Pious. Losers.

FREEPER WARRIORS RULE THE EARTH


18 posted on 10/07/2006 6:15:51 AM PDT by Stallone (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror.)
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Why didn’t Hastert and Reynolds and Shimkus understand what every vigilant parent knows, that there is something very fishy about an older guy, any older guy, sending overly friendly e-mails to a 16-year-old, whether the 16-year-old is a boy or a girl.

I am sure everyone is dismayed about this, but the ones most upset, I would guess, are married women with children, those independent voters who were the “security moms” in the 2004 election and turned out to be so crucial to George W. Bush’s victory.

Posted by Crawdad to navysealdad On News/Activism 10/06/2006 4:22:02 PM PDT · 186 of 300

The dems aren't trying to keep anti-gays home on election day. The dems are activily pursuing the anti-gay vote.What scares a security mom more than the thought of one of her children being molested or hit on by a pervert? Dems to the rescue!

Hey Myrna, stop copying me.

19 posted on 10/07/2006 6:17:52 AM PDT by Crawdad (My kingdom for a real conservative without a conscience.)
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"Once they saw the IMs, they immediately asked him to resign. This is 'truth'. But, the perceptions of Republican leaders were covering up for Foley would always be there."

But I think the second part of your point is the more important. The Deputy House Chief responsible for pages, Foley and the senior house staffers dealing with the matter were mostly gay men. I wonder if anyone even told Hastert that his office was involved in trying to deal with Foley hitting on the pages?
20 posted on 10/07/2006 6:19:16 AM PDT by spatso
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