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To: sukhoi-30mki

Well, the MiG-29 is a much better airplane than the F-16 - but that doesn't really matter when you have a radar cross-section of that looks like a giant flying mirror. The AIM-120C, launched from an F-16, has claimed two very proficient Serbian pilots and their MiG-29s.

Same thing with the EuroFighter. It might be a "better" air defense aircraft, but it was built as a gun fighter or boresight fighter. Its agility in the furball isn't really going to matter when it looks like a "shoot me" sign to a Sidewinder or Slammer. That's the big thing about stealth - not only is it hard for the enemy to find you in the first place, it's very hard for his self-guided munitions to track you.


18 posted on 10/06/2006 1:51:19 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Well an Indian Mig-29 locked on to 2 aging Pakistani F-16s with his AA-12s in 1999 & chased them off.The pilot even got a medal for it.IOW,we still have to see an equal vs equal conflict within 2 such aircraft.The countries operating their Eurofighters will be more upto date on their aircraft than the Serbs were ever with their Mig-29s
One would have to be naive to think that the AESA radar & IRSTS planned for the Ef-2000 weren't designed from the outset with aircraft like the F-35 in mind.The F/A-22 is in a different league,though.


33 posted on 10/06/2006 9:25:08 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Spktyr
"That's the big thing about stealth - not only is it hard for the enemy to find you in the first place, it's very hard for his self-guided munitions to track you."

That was actually true prior to the current generation of video-based targeting in air-to-air and ground-to-air missiles.

Hard to hide from a computer processing your multi-spectrum video image, though.

Likewise, if all of your airfields are being overflown by UCAV's that can stay over the target for 36 hours at a time, landings and take-offs become a bit problematic regardless of your airframe.

36 posted on 10/06/2006 9:35:45 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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