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Uncovering the USS Macon : The Underwater Airship
Der Spiegel ^ | 10/06/2006

Posted on 10/06/2006 4:56:27 AM PDT by Republicain

The military zeppelin USS Macon was meant to be a floating American aircraft carrier over the Pacific Ocean -- but it crashed, sank and has been lying on the ocean floor for more than 70 years. Now scientists have discovered and documented the unique wreck off the coast of California.


(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: history; ussmacon; zeppelin
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1 posted on 10/06/2006 4:56:28 AM PDT by Republicain
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To: Republicain

That thing was awesome. It could launch and recover aircraft. Its giant hanger still exists.


2 posted on 10/06/2006 4:59:57 AM PDT by SIDENET (I like liberals...they taste like CHICKEN.)
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It could launch and recover aircraft

I recall seeing old movies of this. If memory serves I don't believe any plane were ever recovered.
(as always I reserve my God given right to be wrong)


3 posted on 10/06/2006 5:13:05 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: SIDENET
That thing was awesome. It could launch and recover aircraft. Its giant hanger still exists.

Yes, and if it hadn't crashed it might have provided an afternoon's entertainment to the Japanese Navy.

4 posted on 10/06/2006 5:15:42 AM PDT by Grut
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To: Republicain

Ooh, check out the Maybach DS 8 Zeppelin limo -- photo 10 of 11 in the "roots of aviation" gallery.


5 posted on 10/06/2006 5:16:16 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: Republicain

Imagine the difficulty for a pilot trying to find their way back to the airship in inclement weather and radio silence.


6 posted on 10/06/2006 5:27:36 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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Ooh, check out the Maybach DS 8 Zeppelin limo -- photo 10 of 11 in the "roots of aviation" gallery.


7 posted on 10/06/2006 5:28:06 AM PDT by Republicain
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To: Grut
Wrong. It would have provided a few minutes entertainment for the Japanese Zeros.


The problem with air-ships was that they were too vulnerable to weather conditions. But who knows, with today's weather avoidance techniques things might be different. Maybe they were ahead of their time.

My, but such fun they must have been to fly in!
8 posted on 10/06/2006 5:52:05 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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Side note: Best name for a Hockey team EVER!

9 posted on 10/06/2006 6:07:57 AM PDT by pikachu (Be alert --we need more lerts!)
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"I recall seeing old movies of this. If memory serves I don't believe any plane were ever recovered. "

I've seen film of planes being recovered. Looked a little tricky, but so is landing on a carrier.


10 posted on 10/06/2006 6:10:05 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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As always I reserve my God given right to be wrong.
And BOY do I ever avail myself of that!
11 posted on 10/06/2006 6:32:11 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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12 posted on 10/06/2006 6:54:21 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: R.W.Ratikal
Wrong. It would have provided a few minutes entertainment for the Japanese Zeros.

It would have been fine for search and rescue work in coastal waters and areas under military control. It would also be able to rescue those who had to ditch for lack of fuel.

13 posted on 10/06/2006 8:20:16 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Republicain
US military still looking at this technology (or a descendant)

From Aviation Leak and Spy Technology magazine

http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/news/channel_awst_story.jsp?id=news/020606p2.xml
14 posted on 10/06/2006 8:55:08 AM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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Yes, and if it hadn't crashed it might have provided an afternoon's entertainment to the Japanese Navy.

Absolutely correct. It was a creature of the 30s, and would have been completely out of place in WWII. I still admire the machine, though.

15 posted on 10/06/2006 9:08:19 AM PDT by SIDENET (I like liberals...they taste like CHICKEN.)
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Cool!
I was homeported out of Moffett Field for 4 years.
Gave many kids & friends tours of hanger one Back when I was in the Navy


16 posted on 10/06/2006 1:13:26 PM PDT by quietolong
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Absolutely correct. It was a creature of the 30s, and would have been completely out of place in WWII

Not so. Blimps played a VERY important role in anti-submarine patrols off both coasts throughout WWII. A bonafide Zeppelin would have been able to operate at much more extreme ranges than blimps - allowing it to accompany convoys much further out.

And a Zeppelin carrying follow-ons to the F9Cs could have provided organic airborne anti-Uboat standoff attack capability that only became available when CVEs became available for convoy escort.
17 posted on 10/06/2006 1:20:02 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: quietolong
Cool!
I was homeported out of Moffett Field for 4 years.
Gave many kids & friends tours of hanger one Back when I was in the Navy

I went there as a kid. Sadly, I just learned from the museum Web site that the hangar is off-limits to the public due to chemical contamination, and is tentatively slated for demolition. An alternative bill to clean up and restore the hangar is in the works.

18 posted on 10/06/2006 1:29:56 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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Valin,

There are a bunch of still shots located here of recovery. Notice in many cases the Sparrowhawks had their landing gear removed after proving the concept was feasible. I've seen movies as well of this, but didn't find any links on the web. Enjoy.

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/ac-usn22/z-types/zrs5-m.htm


19 posted on 10/06/2006 4:20:39 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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>>> I went there as a kid <<<

When was that? If you were on a school tour around 79 I may have been the tour guide.
It was fun and a easy way to get most of the day off.

>>>> Sadly, I just learned from the that the hangar is off-limits to the public due to chemical contamination, and is tentatively slated for demolition <<<<

What BS. Just leave it alone It won’t hurt anyone. save 12 mil Also I recall that hanger one is a registered state historic landmark. Be on the lookout for people in the pockets ofbig money developers.

It was neat getting up inside those hangers. Waaay back when I was an E2 And would pull the late night hanger watch. Would Sneak up inside them (hey I thought I saw a spark up there) Great view from up on top & looking down. Besides when I got to be PO of the Watch I knew every skate place there was in & around those three hangers.

Make sure you keep them up And while your at it bring back the Moffett Air Show. It was one of the best! My former squadron CO started it.


20 posted on 10/07/2006 1:41:58 AM PDT by quietolong
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