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US pilots in Brazilian mid-air collision have passports seized
The Times ^ | October 4, 2006 | Devika Bhat and Tom Hennigan

Posted on 10/04/2006 3:40:52 PM PDT by MadIvan

A Brazilian court has ordered police to seize the passports of two American pilots whose private jet is believed to have clipped a commercial plane that crashed last week, killing all 155 people on board.

Joseph Lepore, the pilot, and Jan Paladino, his co-pilot, were at the controls of a newly-built Embraer Legacy 600 jet when it collided with a Boeing 737 at 11,200m (37,000ft) on Friday, allegedly sending the larger plane spiralling to the floor of the Amazon rainforest, resulting in the deaths of all 155 passengers and crew on board.

Miraculously, the seven passengers on board the Legacy jet – all American – survived after their plane was able to land safely at a nearby air force base.

Judge Tiago de Abril in Mato Grosso state, where the Boeing 737 went down, said that police had seized the passports of Mr Lepore and Mr Paladino, both US citizens, as a "cautionary" measure while the investigation was proceeding.

But Maria Barbant, spokeswoman for the State Justice Department said that officials had acted "as a result of the doubts surrounding the case and the emergence of indications that the accident was caused by the Legacy."

She said the two were not arrested but "just prevented from leaving the country, at least until we know exactly what happened."

The two pilots arrived yesterday in Rio de Janeiro for medical and psychological tests as part of the enquiry. They face more questioning today. "They are being interviewed by the authorities and are giving their total cooperation with the investigation," said Glauco Paiva, a US consulate official in Rio.

Mid-air collisions are extremely rare, and authorities are investigating why anti-collision devices, which were fitted on to both planes, were not able to prevent the crash, which marks Brazil's worst ever aircraft disaster.

Investigators are said to believe that both planes should have been flying at different altitudes and that human error, by the Legacy jet’s pilots as well as air traffic controllers, resulted in the Legacy flying towards the jungle city of Manaus at 37,000ft rather than 36,000ft.

That is the altitude reserved for planes from Manaus to Brasília — the Boeing’s origin and destination, en route to Rio de Janeiro.

When air traffic control realised the problem it could not contact the Brazilian-made Legacy, which was in an area over the rainforest where controllers cannot contact planes by radio.

However, yesterday O Globo, a daily Brazilian newspaper, reported that Legacy disobeyed an order by the control tower to descend to a lower altitude just before coming into contact with the larger aircraft.

Investigators are also trying to determine why the corporate jet survived while the more powerful Boeing 737, operated by the Brazilian carrier Gol, crashed. One theory is that the Gol pilot may have swerved at the last minute to avoid the Legacy, sending his plane into a deadly dive.

Yesterday one of the passengers aboard the private jet described the terrifying moments after the plane was struck by the Boeing 737, clipping a wing and spinning the aircraft out of control.

Joe Sharkey, a New York Times journalist who was on a freelance assignment for the aviation magazine Business Jet Traveller, told of his extraordinary brush with death as the pilots began a desperate struggle to bring the plane under their command, and of the heartache after learning the fate of the passengers on the Boeing 737.

Writing in his newspaper, Mr Sharkey described the instant his flight went horribly wrong: "Without warning, I felt a terrific jolt and heard a loud bang, followed by an eerie silence, save for the hum of the engines. I lifted the shade. The sky was clear; the sun low in the sky. The rainforest went on for ever. But there, at the end of the wing, was a jagged ridge, perhaps a foot high, where the five-foot-tall winglet was supposed to be."

As he stared out of the window it became clear that the situation was worsening. Rivets started to come loose and the edge of the wing began to peel back. The plane started to lose speed.

The pilots, whose calm in the crisis was praised by Mr Sharkey, scanned maps and searched for a landing place in what is one of the world’s most isolated regions. "By now we all knew how bad this was. I wondered how badly ‘ditching’ — an optimistic term for crashing — was going to hurt. I thought of my family. And as our hopes sank with the sun, some of us jotted notes to spouses and loved ones and placed them in our wallets, hoping the notes would later be found."

Then the pilots spotted a Brazilian air force base hidden in the jungle and managed to make an emergency landing. Several hours after their own near-brush with death, jokes about the close call turned to tears as Mr Sharkey and his fellow travellers were told of the Boeing’s fatal crash.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brazil; gol; golairlines; pilots; usa
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Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 10/04/2006 3:40:54 PM PDT by MadIvan
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2 posted on 10/04/2006 3:41:20 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

If the pilot was flying where the controller told him to fly it is hard to pin the blame on the pilot. The alarms not sounding are cause for alarm.


3 posted on 10/04/2006 3:49:29 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: MadIvan

Blame Bush.


4 posted on 10/04/2006 3:55:00 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: MadIvan
Investigators are said to believe that both planes should have been flying at different altitudes and that human error, by the Legacy jet’s pilots as well as air traffic controllers, resulted in the Legacy flying towards the jungle city of Manaus at 37,000ft rather than 36,000ft.

I find it hard to believe an investigator would make a statement like this so soon in the process.

5 posted on 10/04/2006 3:58:16 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (I gigged your peace frog.)
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To: SF Republican
If the pilot was flying where the controller told him to fly it is hard to pin the blame on the pilot.

It's Brazil.

The pilots are American's. 

The controllers are Brazilians.

Of course they'll pin the blame on the Americans. 

They'll actually probably try to pin the blame on George Bush.
 

6 posted on 10/04/2006 4:01:50 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: MadIvan
WABC radio constantly reporting on this plane crash neglected to even mention tht another plane was involved.

Sins of omission and sins of commission par for the course when they have to protect their own. NYSlimes reporter on board.

7 posted on 10/04/2006 4:10:43 PM PDT by OldFriend (Should we wait for them to come and kill us again? President Karzai 9/26/06)
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To: SF Republican

This does not comport with a report I heard yesterday. That the small plane pilot was ordered to descend and did not.


8 posted on 10/04/2006 4:11:43 PM PDT by OldFriend (Should we wait for them to come and kill us again? President Karzai 9/26/06)
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To: OldFriend

I heard they did not descend as well. Hopefully, a link will emerge. If true, these guys are toast.


9 posted on 10/04/2006 4:20:43 PM PDT by doodad
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To: MadIvan

Third World scapegoat time....


10 posted on 10/04/2006 5:20:32 PM PDT by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: doodad; OldFriend

The Brazilian daily O Globo reported Tuesday that the pilots of the Legacy, which was carrying seven Americans, allegedly disobeyed an order by the control tower to descend to a lower altitude just before coming into contact with Gol Airlines Flight 1907 last Friday.

The paper said the Legacy flew at 37,000 feet to the capital Brasilia, but then ignored an order to descend to 36,000 feet to continue its flight to the Amazon city of Manaus.

http://www.silive.com/newsflash/metro/index.ssf?/base/news-21/1159969169290170.xml&storylist=simetro


11 posted on 10/04/2006 5:45:45 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Did they reply to the order? Did they hear it?


12 posted on 10/04/2006 6:08:32 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)
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To: TexKat

That is the report I heard Tuesday. Obviously, we don't know the facts other than the small plane clipped the bigger plane. The small plane landed safely and the other plane crashed into the jungle with all aboard killed.


13 posted on 10/04/2006 6:29:28 PM PDT by OldFriend (Should we wait for them to come and kill us again? President Karzai 9/26/06)
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To: TexKat
It's true they (smaller aircraft flying west) should have been at FL360 instead of FL370, but we don't know if there was a communication problem/language barrier with ATC that precluded the smaller aircraft from complying with an altitude change clearance.

Then there is the separate issue of why the TCAS didn't work--someone had their transponder off or it was malfunctioning. If it had been working in both aircraft each would have gotten a resolution advisory that would've prevented this tragedy.

14 posted on 10/04/2006 9:10:31 PM PDT by zipper
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To: All
Joe Sharkey's account of the crash and recovery to landing
15 posted on 10/04/2006 9:32:38 PM PDT by zipper
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Here's part of what the commie Xinhua news agency is saying--very provocative and with anti-American undertones. I can't believe they've been charged with anything yet--it'll be a while before the investigation is completed.

RIO DE JANEIRO, Oct. 4 (Xinhua) -- Brazil's Federal Police on Wednesday launched an investigation into the collision of a private jet with a Boeing 737-800 passenger plane on Sept. 29, which caused the deaths of 155 people.

The pilots of the private Legacy jet, Joseph Lepore and Jean Paul Paladino, have been charged with involuntary manslaughter since the collision led to the crash of the Boeing flight and the subsequent deaths of its 149 passengers and six crew members.

Police said the investigation was aimed at checking whether the two U.S. pilots had acted in a risky manner that might have contributed to the tragedy, the biggest ever accident in Brazil's aviation history.

Information provided by Brazil's Air Force showed that the jet was flying with its transponder turned off.

Before the collision, the Air Traffic Control Service in Brasilia had tried several times to get in touch with the jet by radio but had failed, said Air Force officials. After the impact, the jet's pilots contacted the service center by radio and reported the collision.

[snip]
 

16 posted on 10/04/2006 9:43:14 PM PDT by zipper
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To: zipper
Thanks for the link - Sharkey's account does seem to confirm the O Globo account:

Minutes before we were hit, I had wandered up to the cockpit to chat with the pilots, who said the plane was flying beautifully. I saw the readout that showed our altitude: 37,000 feet.

Of course there is no indication how many minutes passed between when Sharkey was in the cockpit reading the altimeter and when the midair occurred.

17 posted on 10/04/2006 9:52:37 PM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: Heatseeker

True. And it's not uncommon to be assigned the "wrong" altitude for the direction of flight, at least temporarily. So just because they were at FL370 doesn't mean they did anything wrong.


18 posted on 10/04/2006 9:58:00 PM PDT by zipper
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To: MadIvan

Pilots of jet that struck Brazilian plane may face manslaughter charge
Updated 10/4/2006 1:00 PM ET
RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — The American pilots of an executive jet could be charged with manslaughter if they are considered responsible for a high-altitude crash with a Boeing 737 that killed 155 people, federal police said Wednesday.

Police earlier seized the passports of pilots Joseph Lepore and Jan Paladino, both from New York state, to prevent them from leaving the country.

The two were piloting the Brazilian-made Embraer Legacy 600 when it collided with a Boeing 737-800 over Mato Grosso state in the Amazon rain forest. The Boeing crashed, killing all 155 aboard. The Legacy landed safely at an air force base.

"We have received an order from the Federal Prosecutor's Office in Mato Grosso to begin investigating the possible commission of a crime inside the aircraft," said Geraldo Pereira, acting director of the Federal Police in Mato Grosso, speaking by phone.

"We will start investigating if the two pilots caused the accident and if they are considered guilty they could be charged with involuntary manslaughter," Pereira said........

excerpt: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-10-04-brazil-jet_x.htm?csp=34


19 posted on 10/05/2006 6:16:20 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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20 posted on 10/05/2006 6:17:59 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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