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The Foley Set-Up
various FR links and blogs
| 10-04-06
| The Heavy Equipment Guy
Posted on 10/04/2006 2:12:07 PM PDT by backhoe
The latest- the blogs are all over this- go to them and use their links:
Here's the list of intimidation.
I don't think that these Gay activists who "out" other gays care about the damage that they do. They are angy haters...
There’s now evidence that the fever swamp blogosphere (led by the vicious John Avarosis, who runs one of the ugliest of the lefty hate sites, Americablog), deliberately concealed information about Mark Foley for months without any concern for potential victims of Foley’s advances, so they could spring it on the public at election time. Gateway Pundit has a roundup: Get Your Lawyers... Foleygate Scandal About to Bust Open! link: 107 comments --hillary's fingerprints all over it. Link
Take a look at this: Michael Rogers of Blogactive threatened Kirk Fordham too. In July 2004
SCANDAL SATURATION?
Mickey Kaus wonders about the "Densepack Theory," Karl Rotstan
agrees: "Now that the Rubicon has been crossed so close to the election, we should prepare ourselves for an avalanche of Congressional filth, the likes of which will make Clinton's experience look tame by comparison." ANOTHER UPDATE:
It's starting. MORE:
Indeed:
QandO Blog now has evidence that
John Aravosis (the radical gay activist from
AmericaBlog- "He deserves to be publicly excoriated."
7-2004) had copies of the emails "months ago!"
And, then there is this BOMBSHELL from Clarice...Dick Morris just said on FOX that a respected reporter told him that she has proof that a senior democrat member of congress knew about the IMs months ago–unlike Hastert.
"We need Bloggers to find out the dirty work behind everything. Foley is guity of being a disgusting sleezebag and should be prosecuted if he's guilty but the Democrats knew about this and sat on it until the 2006 elections."
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Older info, reverse chronological order:
October 3rd, 2006
In a post at his Blogactive website, Michael Rogers seems to want to take a bow for his noble work:
Good news... Bad news...
Sunday, October 01, 2006
Well the good news is that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is finally getting it. I called their Director of Communications, Bill Burton, before the Foley story broke to let him know about Foley (and another case) were coming down the pike. While Burton promised to have someone email or return my call and didn't, I am glad he followed up on my call and was ready on Friday to come out of the gate running.
The bad new is they are still not paying enough attention... There are others within reach... If the Democrats would only fight half as hard as the Republicans.
I posted comments at the DCCC website on the Foley entry. Not only do their promises of returned calls and emails never come to fruition, but now they are deleting my comments from their blog, The Stakeholder.
Luckily the comments were cached before they axed them.
Here's the one I put up at 9:55pm:
Here's the one I put up at 10:02pm:
Well, at least they are paying attention.
And how telling it is that the Stakeholder, the homepage of the Democrat Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) would delete his posts.
Mr. Rogers and his friends have been on this mission for several years now.
From a two year old article in the gay advocacy giveaway, the Washington (DC) Blade:
Blade Caption: Florida Congressman Mark Foley (R) has vowed to vote against the Federal Marriage Amendment, but gay activist John Aravosis said he decided to out the congressman anyway because Foley supports the re-election of President Bush.
Mikulski and Foley become newest congressional targets as FMA vote nears
By ADRIAN BRUNE
Friday, July 09, 2004
... Mike Rogers and John Aravosis, [are] the two men loosely heading an ongoing outing campaign on the Hill. As the date nears for a Senate vote on the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would ban gay marriages in the Constitution, Rogers said the outings have picked up steam — from 13 documented offices to nearly 20 currently on a target list provided by Rogers to the Blade.
In addition to Tolman, Rogers and Aravosis, working in tandem but not together, claimed in the last week to have outed via the Web Democratic Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland and Republican Congressman Mark Foley of Florida...
A spokesperson for Congressman Mark Foley (R-Fla.) also declined to comment after Aravosis specifically asserted that Foley is gay on his Web site last week...
Aravosis continued to defend the outing campaign.
“An acquaintance of mine, a Southern Republican, worked for a member who was not anti-gay personally, but he signed on to the amendment [banning gay marriage],” Aravosis said. “My friend quit. I’m basically saying, ‘You know what, you have a choice. It’s 2004. You can work for pro-gay Democrats, and now you can work for pro-gay Republicans.’” ...
Over in the House, Republican Mark Foley said in March that he would vote against the Federal Marriage Amendment — one week after his spokesperson said he would not take a position on the measure until it came up for a House vote.
Despite Foley’s FMA opposition, Aravosis purported to out Foley as well, taking him to task for supporting President Bush, who endorsed the measure late last winter. Labeling Foley as “our latest closeted gay hypocrite,” Aravosis said Foley made the list for putting politics ahead of his own community by “whoring for an anti-gay president.” ...
Florida Congressman Mark Foley (R) has vowed to vote against the Federal Marriage Amendment, but gay activist John Aravosis said he decided to out the congressman anyway because Foley supports the re-election of President Bush.
Foley responded to the reports by initiating a telephone press conference among non-gay Florida media and called discussion about his sexual orientation “revolting.” He declined at that time to answer questions about his sexual orientation and subsequently abandoned his bid for the Senate, citing concerns over his father’s health.
Aravosis said he obtained the latest information about the five-term congressman from Foley’s former chief of staff, Kirk Fordham.
Fordham, who is gay, headed up fund-raising efforts for Foley’s aborted Senate campaign and is now the finance director for one of the remaining GOP primary candidates in that race: Mel Martinez, George W. Bush’s former Housing & Urban Development secretary. Martinez has come out in favor of the Federal Marriage Amendment.
Fordham denied ever speaking with Aravosis and told the Blade, “I just don’t discuss Congressman Foley’s personal life with reporters, but I’m not sure what their motive is in outing him, other than to draw attention to themselves. Foley has a good track record with gay issues and opposes the FMA.” ...
It seems very probable that one or all of the gentlemen mentioned in this article have had a hand in the recent revelations about Mark Foley.
It is equally likely that one or all of them is behind the anonymous website, StopSexPredators.blogspot.com, that first produced Foley's alleged emails out of the blue.
Michael Rogers started his own website, blogactive.com, back in July of 2004.
Oddly enough, there was a significant drop-off in his activities there after July of this year, which is when StopSexPredators.blogspot.com was begun.
From Alexa:
Mike Rogers should probably be at the top of the list of suspects.
22 Comments »
Who is really calling for the Republican leadership to resign?--The lunatics have NO clue what they have exposed. Their homosexual agenda has taken a HIT big time if the are trying to make Speaker Hastert responsible for Foley's acts.
Posted in Politics, Crime, Law at 3:05 pm by nbpundit
Monday, October 02, 2006
Foleygate: What Stunk Like a Rat, Was a Democ-Rat!
THE PROOF THAT DEMOCRATIC OPERATIVES WERE AFTER MARK FOLEY SINCE 2004!!
From a March 2005 post at BlogActive
Sister Toldjah leads you down the path to Macsmind.
**You must read the whole thing.**
Macsmind put together this link to the Foley memos:
Where'd all the "It's Just Sex" Democrats Go
'Gay' activist held info about Foley During campaign to 'out' lawmakers
If they want to protect the children from homos, why teach it in public schools?
Is Foley This Cycle's "DUI?"
There may be a possibilty that the one who runs Blog Active.com, and the one who runs Stop Sex Predators may be one in the same. That may be Mike Rogers, the infamous Gay Republican Outer.
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nigella 10/2/2006 02:51PM PDT |
Foleygate: What Stunk Like a Rat, Was a Democ-Rat!
THE PROOF THAT DEMOCRATIC OPERATIVES WERE AFTER MARK FOLEY SINCE 2004!!
From a March 2005 post at BlogActive
Sister Toldjah leads you down the path to
Macsmind.
**You must read the whole Macsmind update.**
Macsmind put together this link to the Foley memos:
They’re may be a possibilty that the one who runs Blog Active.com, and the one who runs Stop Sex Predators may be one in the same. That may be Mike Rogers, the infamous Gay Republican Outer.
Via Rogers site:
Well the good news is that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is finally getting it. I called their Director of Communications, Bill Burton, to let him know that the Foley thing (and another case) were coming down the pike. While Burton promised to have someone email or return my call and didn’t, I am glad he followed up on my call and was ready on Friday to come out of the gate running.
The bad new is they are still not paying enough attention… There are others within reach… If the Democrats would only fight half as hard as the Republicans”
Rogers is miffed that the DCCC has been deleting his posts. No wonder as even they sense a major backfire if it get’s out that this was all a “Gay Republican Outing” that netted more than it bargained for.
Now... Get this posting at Blog Active back on March 4, 2005:
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Here are the threats and plans to destroy Mark Foley printed at a Leftist-haters blog back in March of 2005:
Birds of a Feather
Two haters, one picture:
Gay-bashing straight man John Ashcroft and Gay-bashing gay man Mark Foley
This is United States Congressman Mark Foley
He voted this week for a law to allow hate groups to fire gay and lesbian people at will
The law he is supporting will overrule ANY local laws on the matter.
MARK FOLEY IS GAY
MARK FOLEY WILL BE EXPOSED FOR THE HYPOCRITE HE IS THROUGH A MAIL AND INTERNET CAMPAIGN THAT WILL REACH INTO EVERY HOME IN HIS DISTRICT.
THIS MAN IS A DANGER
TO GAY MEN AND LESBIANS
DO NOT SLEEP WITH THIS MAN
IF HE CRUISES YOU IN THE BATHROOMS OF CONGRESS,IGNORE HIM!
IF HE HITS ON YOU AT THE NEXT REPUBLICAN CONVENTIONIGNORE HIM!
THE NATION MUST BE WARNED ABOUT THIS
ABOMINATION IN THE GAY COMMUNITY
Please to support our educational and advertising campaign against this right wing hypocrite, click here and join the battle for true lesbian and gay liberation.
**COMING MONDAY ON BLOGACTIVE:** The entire Mark Foley story...Read about my recorded discussions with staff members and former staff members of Rep. Mark Foley...Read about how Mark Foley hit on men less than half his age at the Republican convention...Read about how Mark Foley voted to remove protections from those same young gay men and lesbians and anyone else violating a local discrimination law!!!
And back in 2004 there were open threats in the Washington Blade by Rogers targeting Foley:
20 offices said targeted
Not likely, say Mike Rogers and John Aravosis, the two men loosely heading an ongoing outing campaign on the Hill. As the date nears for a Senate vote on the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would ban gay marriages in the Constitution, Rogers said the outings have picked up steam — from 13 documented offices to nearly 20 currently on a target list provided by Rogers to the Blade.
In addition to Tolman, Rogers and Aravosis, working in tandem but not together, claimed in the last week to have outed via the Web Democratic Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland and Republican Congressman Mark Foley of Florida.
While Tolman confirmed he is gay, the Mikulski’s office refused to comment on speculation she is a lesbian, something Aravosis implied last week on his site.
A spokesperson for Congressman Mark Foley (R-Fla.) also declined to comment after Aravosis specifically asserted that Foley is gay on his Web site last week.
Both members of Congress have long been the subject of rumors about their sexual orientation.
Foley abused his position and may have been involved in criminal activity.
Democrats knew this for over a year.
With 6 weeks before the November elections, they broke the dam loose!
More from March 2005 at BlogActive...
From the gay outing website on March 22, 2005:
blogACTIVE.com has confirmed with three separate sources that, in fact, US Rep. Mark Foley is a gay man. Foley has voted to support discrimination against gay men and lesbians on more than one occasion.
A source has confirmed with blogACTIVE.com that Foley lives a practically an out life at his Florida residence, often seen entertaining gay men, some of whom the source described as "close to underage."
...I've thought hard about what kind of TAKE ACTION would work, but there is really is none right now. Everyone already knows Foley's a self hating closet case. When we get closer to the mid-term elections, I am sure more will surface.
And, there you have it!
Others in the Game: La Shawn Barber, Passionate America, Michelle Malkin, HotAir, Just One Minute, Flopping Aces, Right Wing Nuthouse, Dan Riehl has an update Powerline, Instapundit, Ace, RedState, Wizbang, TigerHawk, American Thinker...Gay Patriot weighs in.
(Let me clarify, there are
2 issues here: There is the
sexual predator issue that is abominable, and then there is the
skunk issue, those that waited with their reports while children were in jeopardy until
6 weeks outside of an election to release their "news"!)
Previously:The Foley FalloutFoley Fallout: What We Know Now Foleygate! Altered Images! What's Going On Here?
Foley and the Blame Game -- The fact that he was hounded out of office and personally destroyed by the Democrats show that they despise gays - one of their own key constituencies.
Now the Mark Foley story is getting weird. (Yes, I know it’s already weird, but this is weirder.) There doesn’t seem to be any doubt that Foley’s guilty of making advances to teenage boys—after all, he resigned—but there’s something very odd about the email messages being circulated by media and left wing blogs: Foleygate: Mark Foley emails altered.
More at Flopping Aces.
UPDATE at 10/2/06 9:07:44 am:
More links and background at Michelle Malkin: Predators in the House. link: 173 comments "Like it or not, it is legal for a 16 year old to have sex in most states with either sex. The issue is whether Foley was doing it on taxpayer time/dollars. Rush is interviewing Jim Geraghty of TKS at National Review. He doesn't think the Foley thing will do any real damage to Republicans in terms of keeping the House. He believes the "culture of corruption" meme is a big loser for the Dems, and security trumps all. I tend to agree, but I'm afraid I may be underestimating the stupidity of the American people. "
I'm not going to post the contents of Foley's explicit email here, because LGF is not a porn site. If you want to read it, just click on the link. WARNING: it contains explicit sexual material.
What Did The Media Know About Foley And How Long Did They Know It?
Pro-Homosexual Political Correctness Sowed Seeds for Foley Scandal
Foley, C.R.E.W., Soros and Jason Leopold (TruthOut)
Drip, Drip, Drip of Foley Messages Part of Calculated Campaign?
Page Disputes Warning About Rep. Foley (HMMMMM! Verrry Interesting!)
Good news... Bad news... [Blog Active admits tipping off DCCC about Foley]--Blogactive is a radical gay site that takes great pleasure in outing supposedly gay men, especially Republicans. The blog promised an expose on Mark Foley back in March 2005.
GOP Staff Warned Pages About Foley in 2001
October 1st, 2006
For some reason I just feel the need to remember that great Democrat Congressmen and rights pioneer Gerry Studds.
From Wikipedia:
Gerry Studds
Gerry Eastman Studds (born May 12, 1937) is a retired American politician, born in Mineola, New York. He served as a Democratic Congressman for Massachusetts from 1973 until 1996. He was the first openly homosexual member of the US Congress and, more generally, the first openly gay national politician in the US.
Congressional page sex scandal
Studds is remembered chiefly for his role in the Congressional page sex scandal in 1983, when he and Representative Dan Crane were censured by the House of Representatives for separate sexual relationships with a minor – in Studds's case, a 1973 relationship with a 17-year-old male congressional page.
During the course of the House Ethics Committee's investigation, Studds publicly acknowledged his homosexuality, a disclosure that, according to a Washington Post article, "apparently was not news to many of his constituents."
Studds stated in an address to the House, "It is not a simple task for any of us to meet adequately the obligations of either public or private life, let alone both, but these challenges are made substantially more complex when one is, as I am, both an elected public official and gay."
As the House read their censure of him, Studds turned his back and ignored them.
Later, at a press conference with the former page standing beside him, the two stated that what had happened between them was nobody's business but their own.
Studds was re-elected five more terms after the censure...
Maybe the change of season is just making me nostalgic. I'm also strangely reminded of that equally heroic Congressman Barney Frank:
I guess some Congressman are more equal than others.
Especially Democrats.
16 Comments » "And we are told that homosexuals are normal, and that we should not be worried about them being in our schools, etc.,. Then, how come it seems that they are always looking or turning to young boys?"" There is something really rank about the smell of this. Let’s look at the facts………….
The emails and IMs were given to ABC by CREW (Citizens for Ethics) a far left wing organization funded by surprise, surprise….. George Soros. And the head of CREW is none other than a Clinton staffer and worked for that bastion of Islamic rights, John Conyers (D-Michigan). CREW was implement in going after Tom DeLay.
Now it seems that CREW has possession of these emails and IM for a long time. But chose this particular time to release them to ABC (who is not admitting that it was CREW that give them up)."
Foley setup?--Correct. In other words, people knew there was a predator out there, but they failed to report him immediately - preferring to wait until a time that created a political opportunity.--Former page: We knew about Foley 'for years'
Foley--Anybody who is surprised at this needs to recalibrate their radar. Timing of the release of damaging information is critical. The old media campaigns for the Democrats. They generically attack 90% of the time, but save the really damaging individual stuff to affect elections. Of course they've been sitting on this for the right time to release it. Politics is a full contact bare knuckles enterprise.--pdf format at ABC Exclusive: Foley Explicit IMs
Internal Review of Contacts with the Office of the Speaker Regarding the Cong. Mark Foley Matter--ABC News along with the entire MSM is always working with the DNC to subvert the GOP right before election-time. They did it to Bush 41 4 days before the 1992 election with an Iran-Contra-Weinberger "surprise" (which turned out to be meaningless but then cost Bush 4%). They did it to then-Gov. Bush with the sudden DUI release one week before the 2000 elections (which cost Bush 5%). They are doing it again here, and I think there will be one more "surprise" before October is done.
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To: MHGinTN
Good to see you, Marvin- I agree.
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posted on
10/05/2006 7:42:27 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
To: meandog
I wasn't just shouting at you, Mean. I was shouting at everybody and everything. From the very start, it was obvious that this was the Democrat Surprise.
You're right, it is just politics. In my personal life I've run into dirty Democrat and Republican politicians. However--invariably, the Democrat politicians were far dirtier, far sleazier, far more disgusting, revolting, corrupt, dishonest, and depraved. That's on the local AND the national level. That's a matter of fact.
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posted on
10/05/2006 8:15:34 AM PDT
by
Savage Beast
(9/11 was never repeated thanks to President Bush and his expert--and ATTENTIVE--leadership!)
To: YaYa123
An article in Capitol Hill Blue 10/02/06,about sexual predators, states that Tip O'Neill refused to act on complaints about Barney Frank. Hastert must stand firm and the RATS need to be challenged at every opportunity about how their own revered Tip O'Neill handled a similar situation. There is a political trade off of sexual misbehavior by Rats and Republicans. Therefore, the target and main purpose of this Foley scandal is to capture control of the House as stated by the Powerline article.
83
posted on
10/05/2006 8:51:29 AM PDT
by
mountainfolk
(God bless President George Bush)
To: All
Well, well- isn't this interesting:
A quick perusal of the MSM shows they are still stuck on the original storyline.
Folks, they are the DRIVE BY MEDIA-- "The mainstream media … are drive-by shooters. This is exactly what they are. They pull up to a congested area; they spray a hail of bullets into the crowd, causes mass hysteria, mass confusion, mistakes and misinterpretation. Sometimes people or their careers actually die. The mainstream media then smirks and pats itself on the back, says, "Look what we can do," and they ride away unnoticed in the excitement. They are never blamed; they are never held accountable. In fact, they are lauded, they are held up as heroes, mostly by themselves. But they are. They just troll around looking for any issue they can to get everybody all worked up, creating hysteria. It is like a drive-by shooter. It's like road rage every day. That's what the mainstream press has become."
-Rush Limbaugh
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posted on
10/05/2006 12:33:21 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
To: devolve
That is the one I would have posted
85
posted on
10/05/2006 12:45:25 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
To: potlatch
86
posted on
10/05/2006 1:10:06 PM PDT
by
devolve
To: devolve
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posted on
10/05/2006 1:16:00 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
To: potlatch
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posted on
10/05/2006 1:25:04 PM PDT
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WKB
To: WKB
Hmmmmm, nice video WKB - I think?
89
posted on
10/05/2006 1:30:03 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
To: All
90
posted on
10/05/2006 1:42:40 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
To: backhoe
For those who don't have time to go through all this link by link, could you or anyone else summarize the gist of it into a paragraph?
To: ForOurFuture
...summarize the gist of it into a paragraph...Sure- a cut & paste:
Synopsis.... hastert says he isn't leaving. Wants Louis Freeh to investigate. The kid says the emails were just a prank. They were baiting Foley. Foley went with it and resigned. Pelosi has rejected Freeh as the investigator. The kid has hired Tim McViegh' lawyer who is calling it all a prank. The dims...pushing gay marriage, supporting homosexuality being taught in our schools, all that crap, and they're the ones that was crucifying him. I wonder if a lot of gay people are going to remember what the dims really think of them now that they've been exposed.
It is reported here on FR that the staffers at the Capitol in DC are in an absolute panic because Foley's outing has put all homosexuals in the bulls eye of expendibility.
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posted on
10/05/2006 1:50:05 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
To: All
93
posted on
10/05/2006 4:24:17 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
To: backhoe
Amazing work once again......thanks for all the work you do....
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for stopping by- more to come soon.
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posted on
10/06/2006 3:24:54 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
To: All
96
posted on
10/06/2006 3:50:46 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
To: All
FBI's Foley 'assessment' focuses on Istook staffer--It's now starting to look like not a prank but a money making book deal for young Jordon Edmund.
Apparently the “prank‚” may lead to more revelations such as a “book deal” that some of pages were hoping to get, a kind of “Capital Hill 90210. What would “sauce” the offer up more than to have a “learing pervert congressman” in the script?
Macsmind
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posted on
10/06/2006 5:13:04 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
To: All
FBI's Foley 'assessment' focuses on Istook staffer--It's now starting to look like not a prank but a money making book deal for young Jordon Edmund.
Apparently the “prank‚” may lead to more revelations such as a “book deal” that some of pages were hoping to get, a kind of “Capital Hill 90210. What would “sauce” the offer up more than to have a “learing pervert congressman” in the script?
Macsmind
From a List to a GOP Civil War? [More Dirty Tricks] --An open letter to David Corn:
Mr. Corn:
Once again you have shown you and other liberals just don't get the thinking and nuance behind conservative, much less Christian, thinking in this absurd and see-through attempt to suppress Republican turnout by announcing people in positions of power who are gay, as if the fact there are gays in the GOP is news to anyone.
Contrary to your simple-minded views, we do not "loathe" gays. We disapprove of the behavior as being violative of God's laws. I think few of us if any are shocked to learn that within the Republican ranks there are gays, both those actively living the lifestyle and those resisting the temptation to live God's laws instead.
None of us are going to turn on the GOP Mr. Corn merely because like the rest of society there are gays in our midst. I think most of us say the life they lead is between them and God and that it has nothing to do with why we support the GOP or how we see the GOP as being the best protector of our views on everything, not just values, from national security, to taxes to limiting the size of govt. (though the GOP has fallen down badly on the job on this later imperative) to protecting our constitution with judges who faithfully interpret the constitution, not re-write it to fit their ideology.
No Mr. Corn, your cheap and tawdry tactic will be seen by conservatives for what it is. It will not impact a single vote on election day, other than perhaps those who now vote Republican out of revulsion for the sleazy and hypocritical Democratic smears going on. And I bet just a few will be liberal gays.
There will be no civil war in the GOP. But there will be a reckoning you will need to have with your own conscience and the struggle you and your party will need to engage with your own moral sense, if there is even any moral sense left in your party, when you realize how you cheapened democracy. You will wake up the morning after the election is over and if you have even an ounce of conscience left, you'll feel scummy and dirty. And that's as it should be.
No Mr. Corn. We conservatives are not simpletons who are so besotten in bigotry and fear as you want to believe that we would turn on an entire party which promises so much more in terms of what's important to us than you Democrats could ever hope to offer because of the sins of a few of its members.
Apparently the liberal mindset tells you we view ourselves as perfect and that nothing less than perfection will due. No, that is not the case. We just ask for accountability is all, something that Democrats long ago put themselves beyond whether it was Bill Clinton, Gerry Studds, Barney Frank or Ted Kennedy (interesting the 3 latter all come from liberal Massachusetts isn't it?) We just see ourselves as people who are trying harder to do what's right, and don't try to cover up, make excuses or smear accusers when we've been found to have done wrong. That's your party's tactic Mr. Corn and we want nothing of it. But that doesn't mean we do not recognize our own shortcomings or that there are people who struggle with the same temptations common to man.
So we have gays in the GOP. This isn't news to anyone and it's even less impactful in terms of importance to any of us. The fact is, they do not run the party or its agenda nor force the party to alter marriage to allow same sex unions. Our party does not fight for special rights for gays in other ways, allowing them for example to advertise their sexuality in schools or in other jobs and then to be protected by the law from losing those jobs because they sought to impose their sexuality inappropriately.
So why would any of us lay back and not vote on election day because there are gays in our party and allow your party which is the custodian of the gay agenda, and most every other agenda we find repulsive, to take power and to move ahead those things we think endanger the nation, whether economic, cultural or security related??
You've drastically underestimated and miscalculated who we are Mr. Corn. And in so doing you've awoken a sleeping giant ready to knock you Democrats back on your heels on election day with the voter turn-out juggernaut that's coming your way. You have shown us the sleaziest and ugliest in human nature as it lusts for raw power and the blow-back from this is going to be massive. During a time of national danger, you Democrats hypocritically tried to change the subject from terrorism, national security, the need to be successful in Iraq and our continued prosperity to the private sexual lives of people many of us have never even heard of, and this after spending the late 1990s telling us how President Clinton's sexual escapades, not mere dirty talk or preference, in the Oval Office were "private matters" and "none of our business."
Mr. Corn, we're not buying it and we have long memories about your party's hypocrisy. You clearly don't know us, the complexity of our thinking or what you have helped to unleash on Democratic candidates in the coming election. And just a little of it may come from the gay community you liberals hypocritcally claim to champion, but which now are using their preferences as a weapon in this sexual McCarthyism you are playing with.
I suggest on November 8th you will wake up not only feeling cheap and low, but feeling you made a grave miscalculation and helped to unleash the whirlwind on your party's candidates. Good luck sleeping between now and then, and after. You will be spending years Ophellia-like trying to wash out this "Damned spot" Mr. Corn.
31 posted on
10/06/2006 2:36:40 PM EDT by
MikeA
October 6th, 2006
From the DNC's house organ the Washington Post:
George Soros lackey and former John Conyers aide, Melanie Sloane.
Watchdog Group Disputes FBI's Claims on E-Mails
By Dan Eggen
Friday, October 6, 2006; Page A04
The watchdog group that first provided the FBI with suspicious e-mails from then-Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) said yesterday that FBI and Justice Department officials are attempting to cover up their inaction in the case by making false claims about the group....
CREW held a news conference Monday to announce that in July it had provided the FBI suspicious e-mails between Foley and a former House page. The group criticized the bureau for not taking more aggressive action and asked Justice Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine to investigate the FBI's handling of the case.
Law enforcement officials said then that the e-mails did not provide enough evidence of a possible crime to warrant a full investigation. In the e-mails, Foley praises the physical attributes of one page and asks another teenager for his picture.
In subsequent days, unidentified Justice and FBI officials told reporters that the e-mails provided by CREW were heavily redacted and that the group refused to provide unedited versions to the FBI. One law enforcement official -- speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation -- also told The Washington Post the FBI believed that CREW may have received the e-mails as early as April and that the group refused to tell the FBI how they were obtained.
Melanie Sloan, CREW's executive director, said copies of the original e-mails she sent to an FBI agent show those assertions to be wrong. Sloan said the agent called to confirm receipt of the e-mails and to ask if one of the parties was Foley.
Sloan said the group sent unedited e-mails to the FBI because "we wanted them to commence an investigation. We're sort of outraged that they're saying anything differently." The group has asked Fine's office to look into the FBI's assertions.
Justice Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse declined to comment on that issue but defended the FBI's handling of the original e-mails: "The e-mails, while inappropriate, did not contain a criminal predicate to allow the FBI to move forward in an investigation."
Notice this is page A04. Not the front page.
... [T]he FBI believed that CREW may have received the e-mails as early as April and that the group refused to tell the FBI how they were obtained.
This how this timing tracks with Michael Rogers' posted threat about outing Foley back in March. It looks like both he and CREW waited to release their heavy artillery until it could do the most damage.
As to CREW's latest claims, there is nothing in the emails that would or should trigger an FBI investigation. If there is, perhaps Ms. Sloan could point it out.
Of course if the FBI had commenced an investigation based on these innocuous emails, the Soros CREW team would have been the first to howl about a "homophobic witch hunt."
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98
posted on
10/06/2006 1:10:55 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
To: All
Pretty damn insane that everyone should know who is on the list but us. So here's "the list":
US Representatives
Rep. Ed Schrock (VA)
Rep. David Drier (CA)
Rep. James McCrery (LA)
Rep. Mark Foley (FL)
US Senators
Sen Barbara Mikulski (MD)
Senior GOP Staff
Jay Timmons, NRSC
Dan Gurley, RNC
Jay Banning, RNC
Senior Senate Staffers
Robert Traynham, Santorum
Jonathan Tolman, Inhofe
Kirk Fordham, Martinez
Dirk Smith, Lott
John Reid, Allen
Paul Unger, Allen
Linus Catignani, Frist
Senior House Staffers
Jim Conzelman, Oxley
Lee Cohen, Hart
Robert O'Conner, King
Pete Meachum, Brown-Waite
Bush Staff
Israel Hernandez
Jeff Berkowitz
Local Officials
Vincent Gentile, NYC
The rest...
Ed Koch, NYC Mayo
Jennifer Helms-Knox, Judge
Armstrong Williams, Radio host
Matt Drudge, Headline writer
Steve Kreseski, MD Gov.
Chip DiPaula, MD Gov.
Lee LaHaye, CWA
John Schlafley, Eagle Forum
If I were on the list I would sue the hell out of Mr. Rogers there. For example, I seriously doubt that Koch is or ever was homosexual.
This list represents a major political blackmail scheme that should be considered an act of sedition, and all those involved in creating it and using it to issue threats should be brought up on the appropriate felony charges.
99
posted on
10/06/2006 4:37:29 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
To: backhoe
Excellent work, as usual!
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